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  • The main issue is that it partially reassigns blame onto the recipient of the apology. As if you're saying "I could have done better, but if you were someone else it might not have been an issue in the first place".

    Keep in mind that most apologies are being given unto hurt people and hurt people are less likely to give you the benefit of the doubt. That's why rule #1 is to keep it simple and spare the details.

    EDIT: A good example of this in context: "I'm sorry for this mixup. It should've been written better."

    Making the object of the sentence explicit ("this mixup") removes the implied presence of the recipient ("I'm sorry for not being more clear (with you)").

  • To be fair, if emotion isn't involved, that's basically just a sign of indifference. You owe it to yourself and your "opponent" to actually care about whatever it is you're discussing. What truly matters is understanding and prioritizing the why behind your feelings and honoring that, regardless of whatever random impulse those feelings are currently bringing about.

  • 🚫 Conditional apologies:

    • "I'm sorry if..."
    • "I'm sorry but..."
    • "I'm sorry for [not the main thing you should be apologizing for]..."

    🚫 Apologizing on behalf of the recipient:

    • "I'm sorry you feel that way"
    • "I'm sorry you came to that conclusion"

    🚫 Insulting the intelligence of the recipient by way of apology:

    • "I'm sorry for not being more clear"
    • "I'm sorry about being so misleading"

    🚫 Non-apologies:

    • "I apologize for..."
    • "It's regrettable that..."
    • "It was terrible to..."

    When in doubt, keep it simple. Get the main apology out ASAP, then carefully start saying your piece afterward. Focus on yourself if the situation demands explaining yourself (many don't). Be extremely careful to speak only constructively about other individuals during the apology (if you can't say something nice...).

    For example: "I'm sorry. I didn't mean it like that. Is there anything I can do to make it up to you?"

  • Communism with western characteristics?

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  • This I don’t agree with. It’s not like people aren’t allowed to make their own threads. If it seems like there’s a sleeper hit, and user created episode threads for said hit are very active and reoccuring, then automate it. Of course, that requires a pretty active someone to keep a lookout for that.

    Feel free to disagree, but multiple people in the thread have said that they're not interested in creating threads manually even when they have something to discuss -- also keep in mind that these are statements coming from community members who self-selected their way into this meta thread in the first place!

    Why would it be flooded? You don’t have to do the poll that frequently. If you redo the poll midway through the season, wouldn’t that be enough? Or maybe after about 3-4 weeks, when for most anime, 3-4 episodes should be out.

    Because poll turnout is generally low, it will take multiple polling drives over time in order to assemble a representative sample. It is true that a representative sample isn't strictly necessary, but the less accurate the polling, the less aligned the resulting outcome will be with what community members actually want.

    I agree that a poll isn’t the most ideal, but it’s the simplest I feel like. Overcomplicating it is even less ideal.

    I'm just speaking for myself now, but I don't think the current situation is so dire that making a change should be considered strictly mandatory. The perfect may indeed be the enemy of the good... but we already have a half-good option. Any chosen alternative needs to be demonstrably gooder.

    In any case, I think we're ultimately of the same mind about what makes a good solution; all other things being equal, the chosen solution should be made as simple as reasonably possible. Superfluous bells & whistles will only compromise the odds of success, after all! With that being said, could I get your thoughts on this modified proposal? I like it a fair amount, but it still strikes me as somewhat clunky... I'd love to get your eyes on it for a second opinion if you have the time

  • And thank you for the very original suggestion! The more ideas going around the better the brainstorm

  • I like various parts of this proposal, though most of the feedback I'm seeing is that people do generally want proactive threads as long as they're relevant. The problem is finding a way to continue proactively posting threads in people's feeds while somehow eliminating the following issues with the current implementation:

    • Too many low-interest series competing for real estate with high-interest series on the community feed
    • Low-interest series not attracting any attention

    Your approach solves the first problem at the expense of severely reducing the discoverability of lower interest series. It seems possible to tweak this proposal in such a way that it solves the original problem without that downside:

    1. Restrict per-episode threads to a secondary community (!episode_discussion@ani.social works, but anywhere else would work just as well)
    2. On a daily basis, post a "Today's Episode Ratings" thread to the main !anime@lemmy.ml community which will simultaneously act as a directory of what's airing today & a ranked board showing each individual thread's current score/ratio/comments
    3. If an episode thread does well one week, then the next episode of that show will have earned the right to get hosted directly on the main !anime@lemmy.ml community feed instead of being hidden away

    I think this achieves a good balance between pruning automated posts and maintaining discoverability. The appeal of using a "Ranking" thread as a link directory like this is that it creates a fertile area for low-spoiler crossover discussions/discovery without sapping interest in visiting each of the high-spoiler individual episode discussion posts linked therein. Furthermore, dangling out the ability to "upgrade" a show like this will serve as a general incentive for engagement across all interest levels while still solving the original problem of fairly determining what should/shouldn't be promoted on the main community feed.

  • That's a good point! Now that I realize the spoiler implications... I'm suddenly a lot less happy with the original concept. With that being said, I don't feel that leaving it up to a pre-season poll is an ideal solution either. Lots of strong-looking shows drop off hard and lots of the season's best start out as dark horses -- most of the time, I think that we'd end up preventing more active discussions than we'd actually be bringing back. Theoretically, we could try to solve this with a recurring poll, but I'm skeptical of doing that because: A) poll participation suffers from selection bias & B) flooding the feed with repeated poll threads would be even worse than simply sending out a bunch of empty discussion threads.

    I apologize for claiming to be open to thoughts and then immediately shooting down that one... so let me at least conjure up an important takeaway from it: the best possible solution to the problem is one that -- no matter which show you choose -- you can still find a place discuss the latest episode of it somewhere. I think that's important because it keeps us out of the business of gatekeeping and creates the kind of cross-pollination opportunities that many of us want out of an online anime community (i.e.: you can discover cool shows as they're airing because fans are talking about it in the same shared space).

    With that being said, if I had to structure an ordered list of priorities, it'd look like this:

    1. Minimize "spillover" spoilers between ongoing series
    2. Maximize per thread feed impact (i.e.: the only acceptable feed spam is good content)
    3. Maximize discoverability / cross-polination

    I like the idea of merging threads because it boosts objectives 2 & 3, but objective 1 takes precedence. Could we somehow have our cake and eat it too? For example: /r/anime has their spoiler corner subthreads which start autocollapsed. Lemmy doesn't support this (yet), but perhaps there are alternative solutions if we get clever enough?

  • That's lord Kevin to you, peasant

  • Err... there's really no need to explain yourself. You're just voicing what everyone else was already thinking, including me!

    For the purposes of this thread please just think of me like any other member of the community. That guy who deals with the bot upkeep may as well be someone else entirely 😉

  • FWIW: I think anything we can do to increase discussion will be a boon to the community. That's why we collectively wanted an episode discussion bot in the first place, after all. With that being said, we probably overshot it. Rather than making it easier for everyone to join the discussion, we ended up spreading out the discussion too thinly. It's a sort of ghost-town effect.

    So, what next? Well, I still believe in automation, though I think we need to redo it in a way that better fits the current size of the community. We should start small and build that back out until such a point that we can actually justify the one-episode-one-thread model. How do we do that? That's up to you guys, but here's a proposal to consider:

    1. Every day, an episode discussion thread gets automatically posted covering all episodes which aired that day
    2. On that thread, a poll is posted for people to vote on the best episode of the day
    3. On an as-needed basis, if a show is so popular that the other episodes are getting crowded out, then we give those shows their own dedicated threads in the style of the current bot

    What do you folks think? I'm very open to thoughts & suggestions

  • Kind of a weird argument, isn't it? If we did the opposite instead, it's not as if you'd expect rents to fall -- on the contrary, rent would go up in response to the added financial burden on landlords. Setting that hypothetical aside, wouldn't a generalized inflation of rents be an acceptable tradeoff for reducing homelessness and untethering the 50+% of young adults who still live with their parents to move and work in more economically efficient environments?

  • At the end of the day, if something is economical, it basically happens automatically in a market economy. For example: It would be pointless if the U.S. government started running car rental stores in every major population center... because -- duh -- that idea makes money and other people are already doing it.

    From that perspective, you could argue that it's actually the government's job specifically to do uneconomical things. That's why running a government is hard; almost all ideas are uneconomical, so how does one manage to pick only the good uneconomical ideas? Good government policy requires the kind of foresight that can't be gleaned from a cost/benefit analysis.

  • I'm curious, why wouldn't Japan or France qualify as countries which have "built a high speed rail network of length and ubiquity that would meet their needs"? Yes, China has by far the most HSR infrastructure and world-leading HSR expertise, but surely at least a few other countries can satisfy such a mediocre standard as "meeting their needs"?

  • Except you can define a value with undefined and accessing that value will have different behavior than attempting to access an undefined value.

  • Unfortunately, I just don't know enough Japanese right now to be able to pull that off convincingly... Japanese is a challenging language, you know? The thing I struggle with most is Kanji -- a beautiful character system, but so very different from anything I'm familiar with! That's fine, though... if the journey were easy then I think the destination wouldn't really have been worth working for in the first place.

  • Fair enough, I suppose with 46 of them they all sort of blend together after a point. I too have a soft-spot for Lincoln... so I suppose it's some small consolation for me that we'll one day have a chance to meet each other in hell