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carl_marks[use name] @ carl_marks_1312 @lemmy.ml
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  • I mean it is mostly is and would like to hear why it's not true for you.

    The case that Ukraine is mostly a pawn is that it gets major military and economic support from NATO/US https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nato-pledges-further-major-military-economic-aid-ukraine-2024-01-10/ gets information support from NATO [the public/media discourse is heavy pro ukraine; ranging from bbc, dw, france24, nyt, wsj, reuters, etc. ] NATO is picking ukraines leaders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k NATO is telling Ukraine what to do by coercing not to negotiate for peace https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/ While the US knew the consequences of NATO expension https://youtu.be/E3tdF2S04wg?si=cmjik9lRDryxHHEB&t=1312 [love that timestamp]

  • Love reading the radlibs in this thread just coping with nothing substantial to say when their views are challanged

  • I think there is a [smear campaign against Adrian Zenz])https://www.wsj.com/articles/pro-beijing-online-campaign-targets-u-s-based-xinjiang-researcher-cybersecurity-firm-says-11659607252), more here.

    There is no evidence linking the activity to the Chinese government

    Mr. Zenz, who is now based in the U.S., said the letters are fraudulent and called the activity a smear campaign to try to discredit him. He said he has never received funding from Mr. Rubio or Mr. Bannon, and that he doesn’t accept money from politicians.

    Thank you for this article. I love reading wsj and other western cope. Here's the unpaywalled article for others to enjoy https://archive.md/6cRwr

    Nowhere in the article is the "smear campaign" debunked. It's only described. Nowhere it's debunked that Zenz actually does speak mandarin and nowhere is debunked that he isn't actually part of a fundamental christian rapture sect https://www.amazon.com/Worthy-Escape-Believers-Raptured-Tribulation/dp/144976908X - that is outlawed in China (based) - and thus has an interest in negatively portraying China.

    https://www.rand.org/pubs/articles/2021/chinas-disappeared-uyghurs-what-satellite-images-reveal.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/24/china-imprisoning-uighurs-satellite-images-xinjiang are other sources based on what can be learned from satellite imagery.

    Satellite Images like they had from WMD in Iraq? I wonder why these are always so blurry in 2020?

    Also RAND lol https://www.rand.org/about/how-we-are-funded.html Check out how theyre funded

    There are also interviews with escapees, e.g. https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2021/08/uyghur-genocide-china-us-immigrant/619806/ https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/9/10/escape-from-xinjiang-muslim-uighurs-speak-of-china-persecution https://thewire.in/rights/china-uighurs-xinjiang-camps-human-rights.

    Anectodes. If you want to see what a genocide looks like look to gaza

  • I agree with what you say. OP is implying that just because "It’s one of Putin’s strategies: To make it look like it is a conflict between the US/NATO and Russia, not between Ukraine and Russia." It's not true. And I would like to challenge that.

  • Where are the photographs that you said you have of the Tiananmen Square massacre?

    There's video footage of tanks leaving the square and trying their hardest not to run over "tank man" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzeNAHEhU

    Also there's a PBS Frontline Documentary that, albeit having a western slant, is telling vastly different story than what gets regurgitated on Reddit and other parts of lemmy

    That was the documentary I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gtt2JxmQtg

  • I agree that the history lessons from Putin are bs, but hard disagree that this isn't NATO/Russia but Ukraine/Russia. Do you know what a proxy war is?

  • Comparing Putin with Hitler is a form of Nazi apologia

  • Iirc Nvidia received a bunch from CHIPS too, and had to limit exports of their A100s in to China in return. A little later their managers got fat bonuses and now are working to bypass that export ban lel

  • Of course that depends on your definition on "independence". I would call the US and China independent in their foreign policy. Not Ukraine though

  • When Ukraine gets it's military equipment, intelligence, diplomatic and economic support to carry on the war I wouldn't call it independent either. It's a US/NATO Proxy

  • After the dissolution of the SU, you had a friendly Russia and an expectations that NATO is going to disband especially since the Warsaw pact was a reaction to it. Why have NATO still? Who was the enemy? (No it's not a Defensive force and never was). The disbanding never happened. Even Putins Russia tried to join it 3-4 times. When you see former Warsaw pact members change regime and join NATO shortly afterwards you know what's up and what's coming for you. Invading Ukraine was preemptive and a reaction to NATO expansion. It's the causus belli. So yes you have it reversed. Even war hawks like Mearshheimer ane Kissinger are/were saying this

  • Fringe political extremist where turned into "heroic defenders of Ukraine the day little green men showed up to separate Crimea and the Donbas from Ukraine.

    Turned by whom? When you have leaked phone calls where the US discussed regime change, or Biden already predicting in 97 a pissed off Russia when NATO expands even when Clinton and Yeltsin basically handpicked Putin, it's actually you that has cause and effect reversed.

    My sources are western and are corroborating far right/Nazi Elements in Ukraine, but it's still slanted with western foreign policy so you should read it with a grain of salt..

  • A state is comprised of more than just the people that got elected into office. When you have Azov formally integrated into the military, a president that was elected on the platform of uniting the country and ending a civil war getting laughed at when he tries to enact his mandate, diplomats and other officials that uphold bandera, a state forbidding minority languages, etc. It's not just "an extremist minority" but an insitutional problem.

    And to support these forces in order to topple a perceived geopolitical enemy is just collaborating with fascist, especially when doing so created that enemy in the first place.

  • Yeah you're right that is why china should stay guilty until proven innocent, even when the evidence for genocide is paper thin in first place

    The source I posted is western and the fact that they even acknowledge a lack of evidence is quite telling.

    Since it's impossible to prove a negative and taking western hegemony in (western) news sources into account makes i an almost impossible task to disprove the genocide narrative, I'll post the Chinese perspective which provides a much larger context: https://www.qiaocollective.com/education/xinjiang