bouh @ bouh @lemmy.world

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Hiding behind laws and words. You're the best support to fascism there can be.

I don't care about laws and stuff. There wasn't any need for anything for US and EU to support Ukraine. There wasn't any need for investigation to send a war fleet in the red see to protect the merchant ships against the houti. And there wasn't any investigation before Israel sent its army to raze Gaza.

Your technicalities are irrelevant. And you pretending its more important than 2 million people dying is literal evil.

What is there to investigate when Israel is litteraly sieging Gaza? Oh yes, Egypt is accomplice too, because they also have a border. Still, they are starving the population, there's nothing to investigate there. EU and US gave full support to Israel, nothing to investigate either, it's straight fact. US is vetoing anything the UN want to do. That's fact too. What do you want to investigate?

Are you pretending that what's happening in Palestine is fine? Is this what you're saying?

If that's the case, you are litteraly a monster with no care whatsoever for human lives.

My point is the exact opposite. The smiley face is to point the hypocrisy of making the loss of 3 abrams something meaningful when Russia lost far, far more.

The whole UN is saying it. The only one denying it are Israel and its direct supports : US and EU. And even in the EU countries are calling for moderation and help corridors. Even the US is mounting an operation to bring food by boat in Palestine because Israel is going to starve them all to death.

Right now you must be blind and deaf to ignore the dying of the people of Palestine. That or you are a fascist who doesn't care about genocide.

That's blatantly wrong. If you see articles supporting Palestine these days, it's because there's an actual genocide supported by the US and Europe there.

What proportions of its planes did Russia lost? Of its warships? Of its tanks? :-)

In France there are two turns for the president election. The first turn usually has many parties, but because there are only two in the second turn, the first vote is often tactical. You vote for the one you prefer that you think has a chance at the second turn. This means there are a lot of negociations before the election between the parties, alliances and formation of large parties. The left is often divided, and thus often lose.

But there is a second election for the parliament. Unfortunately it's still a vote for one person over two turns, but it's regionalized, so depending on the demographics it can change.

So the situation is not as dire in France I'd say. The right is still liberal in France and not yet fully fascist. And even if we had a far right president, there would be another round for the parliament where the far right showed it's complete incompetency.

The problem today is that the liberals think they can play with the fire and get away with it. And that they are slowly turning fascist themselves. They must come back to talking with the left rather than with the far right.

So indeed we must talk to the liberals at some point, but in my opinion they must lose the power first to get back to reason, and they must do it before our democracy is too weak for it to be dangerous in the hands of the far right.

If what you're telling me is right, the fight to save the US was lost like 20 years ago. Now you're left scooping the flood. The real problem is that the republican party is rotten to the core, that money matters, and media are used for propaganda. Will any of this be worked on in the next term? I doubt it. So in 4 years will it be back to square 1?

We're talking about history where mysoginy left a big footprint because it was made by men that incapable of thinking that women could be more than what they were in their time.

Exactly like today. You're asking why it matters whether it was a man or a woman, yet this whole conversation sparked because someone said that it could be a woman.

That's conservatism for you.

you talked about enemity first, remember? you have this view of a fight, and that anyone who dare say that a woman did something and not a man, is fighting men.

You have a very defensive position. Which means you feal attacked. You say it directly when you talk about "enemy".

You are the problem my friend. Your first comment is aa problem. And the support it receives is concerning and scary.

You are ignorant of recent history then.

Men did do their best to segregate women in the 18th and 19th century. And they succeeded. Even in the language.

Women fighting for women to be recognized in history is an important fight for women to be respected and recognized for their doing, because even now they aren't.

And I'm not saying it's an all men problem. It's a society problem.

Seeing the reactions in this thread, it does seem that a lot of men are indeed enemies of women. Why would it be so hot otherwise to discuss this?

I don't know about English, but in French in the 19th century men did enforce the use of homme (men) instead of humain (human) in the déclaration des droits de l'homme et du citoyen, and in the language, because they did want to segregate women. It was a purposeful and deliberate decision.

I am convinced it's exactly the same in English.

So you're arguing that people would have more use to write moon cycles than women cycles? And you talk about bigotry?!

You really should stop with the ad hominem. I am irrelevant to the discussion because I'm not even a US citizen. I don't live in the US.

Now this is a far better and more convincing argumentation than the "vote Biden or else we're doomed" of the beginning.

You're distorting my words. So either you don't understand, you didn't read, or you don't care.

I'm not equating liberalism and fascism. They're not the same. What I'm saying is that liberalism leads to fascism. And thus, blaming leftists for not voting for liberals is dishonest.

The fault is not on the leftist. It is on the liberals. And voting liberals will not save you from fascism. It merely makes you an accomplice of the liberals, because they will claim your vote to support their policies.

Your whole argumentation is based on the fear of fascism. That's barely better than fascism that relies on the fear of immigrants.

And nothing good can happen during these primaries?

So you have no choice for this election. It's sad, but it seems to be what it is. But what then?

If Biden is elected again, what will happen next term? You hope trump will die or finally end in prison? How long will you keep fascism at bay like this? How is it that there is half a year left before the election and you're already in this dire situation?

After all this conversation you still don't understand. This is sad.

Liberals are already fighting leftists. With more subtle ways than fascists are doing, but they are fighting hard.

In France the liberals spent months to convince people that the left was more dangerous than the fascists. They are litteraly fighting the left with the police. Forbidding protests and breaking them with heavy police forces. They are cooperating with the fascists, making laws with them against immigration and workers.

Basically the liberals are turning fascist light in order to fight the left. It's the most violent, the most radical Liberal government the Vth Republic had. Some conservative are also talking about giving the president a third run eventhough that's forbidden by the constitution.

The liberals don't fight fascism. They never did and they will never do it. They ally with them when they feel threatened. They join them when they feel there's an opportunity to do it.

It's been 40 years of this game in France. Liberals pretend to be left. When in power, they betray and do hard liberalism instead. And they blame all the problems on a lack of liberalism, and on immigration. Exactly like the fascists. So naturally people go to the far right.

What's left is two nuances of fascism.

The left is fighting still though. The fight is to be done on the left first sadly, because so many people are trying to win the race, believing that the liberals in power are not so bad in the meantime.

I'd rather have a fascist leader so that the liberals may wake up while the State is still robust enough to not turn this into a disaster. Because the longer we wait, the more the liberals will dismantle everything. And when there's no barrier, no counterpower, and they already started political repression, then the fascists will only have to do the same, but better.

Maybe that's why you're so scared btw. Maybe your country already lost too many of its defenses against fascism. If it is the case, you're doomed. It's already too late. You're fighting to save a sinking ship.

I'm not gonna vote in your country, but I will do everything I can for mine to not turn into a sinking ship. And it means not supporting the people who are actively sabotaging it.