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Those are true for almost every country at war, what nation did you "flee" to add we can go through it's war time stance.
Well, so you're not denying that it's fascist then. Nothing to argue about in that case :)
6 dead
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
From the header of the article there were 2 soldiers killed and 2 civilians killed. So equal to amount of people that died just from the Ukrainian shelling of Crimea in 2024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2024_Sevastopol_missile_attack. How does it misalign with anything I've said?
move the goalposts however youd like I'll make sure I refute every single one.
Okay sure! First task for you: quote me moving goalposts in this thread at least once :) This has been about Crimea from the start, and you're the one trying to move the goalpost :)
Donbas
Oops you just moved the goalpost..
It's funny that you call me a fascist, despite me arguing against fascism :)
Wikipedia:
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]
How many of those points are not true about current Ukrainian government?
They're implying you're lying to yourself.
About what?
You keep saying everything like you have a solution but won't say what it is.
Already told you what the solution is.
It's idiotic because no bully is going to stop bullying you because you stop fighting back especially when they want something you have.
The bully that bullies people in Ukraine is Zelensky though.
Even the most biased sources don't claim the fighting force is 100% forced fighters, none.
Neither did I. But the percentage grows with each day, otherwise why would they potentially damage their reputation by kidnapping people from the streets, if there were any volunteers left?
That similarly doesn't mean Russia will stop taking territory. You're actively advocating for Russian annexation of Ukraine.
I'm actively advocating for almost the most basic human rights imaginable - freedom of movement and freedom to live. It's way more important than that or other country owning some territory.
They have tried that and are still trying that, what makes you think that every attempt had stopped.
Zelensky has never (except at the very start of the war) even pretended to do serious peace negotiations. His solution was always "yeah we want peace - when Russia leaves all our territories including those it controlled as far as in 2014 - and then we can think about having peace talk with them". And he continuously has this attitude, as Russia gained more and more land. It's not realistic peace talks in any way, it's being a clown...
Moreover Russia agreed not to invade Ukraine in iirc 1991, they bring that peace agreement, they agreed not to invade Ukraine after annexing crimea, they broke that. Do you just blindly trust a government who has time and time again shown itself to not be trustworthy.
This is a fair point, they indeed broke that agreement. Just like any other country has broken agreements in the past. It doesn't mean we should all just try to kill each other and never negotiate though.
Neither of those say Russia was winning to agree to pre 2022 borders.
Try again.
It quite literally says that (I assume its "willing" instead of "winning"), also linking to a source.. Quote:
Ukraine would have promised not to join NATO, and Russia would have withdrawn to its prewar boundaries.
Will that stop the war you absolute bafoon?
Of course, how will it continue if Zelensky's regime wouldn't be able to force people to fight it for him?
No, what's your solution to end the war.
The same as with any other war - peace talks.
It's early morning for me and I've misunderstood your comment but deleted my reply a moment after sending it, cut me some slack :)
Are you trolling or something?
We are talking about Crimea in 2014, and you are linking an article from 2022 about Kiev..
You haven't said anything to disprove
The deleted comment said that I'm lying. By definition it means the author thinks that I've said something that is not true, so it can be disproved (or at least one can provide an argument why it's likely not to be true).
you've offered an idiotic opinion
Is there any reason that it is idiotic, other than not being aligned with western propaganda?
Bro people died defending it and the rest fled so they weren't raped or sledgehammered to death.
Are we still talking about Crimea? Because what you are saying is completely false...
Please link some proofs to what you're saying.
Guaranteed you've been to Russia and if you visited Ukraine you probably called it Russia as well.
I haven't "visited" Ukraine, I've lived there.
refusing to give solutions you claim to have
WDYM by that? Quote needed :) My solution is to stop kidnapping innocent people on the streets and forbidding them from leaving the country, as simple as that.
Ukraine is fighting for itself with support of the population.
What population? That population that is forbidden from leaving the country, afraid to leave homes due to fear of being kidnapped on the streets, and tries to escape the country at any cost? The population that cannot choose their president? The population that cannot form political parties if government does not like it? What population???
Nah, sorry but you can't paint a picture that he just now started doing it :)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64809777
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lukashenko-calls-kyiv-peace-negotiations-094753810.html
Oh well, writing more responses to you wouldn't make sense, clearly you're only here for personal attacks :/
Then go to Russia
If I were in Ukraine, I'd be wishing for opportunity to go to Russia, because it's one of the few ways to escape it... Thankfully I've left before the war started, so I don't need to.
get you out of the “prison” that is supposedly Ukraine. 🙄
Supposedly?? What the hell do you mean by that? https://theconversation.com/why-banning-men-from-leaving-ukraine-violates-their-human-rights-178411
Wtf is the point of your comment chain?
And in the next sentence you say:
I’ve seen and heard no claims that Ukraine is kidnapping people off the street to be sent to the front, outside of Russian owned state media.
Well, exactly so that you have a chance to see it, and stop thinking of yourself as a good guy who is helping Ukrainians while in reality you are helping to murder us.
Here is an archive with tons of videos of kidnapping people: https://uadraftmuseum.ch/
And inb4 you claim that this is Russian propaganda, here are links to other websites just with less content:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ukraine-urgently-needs-soldiers-but-some-men-are-desperate-not-to-fight/ar-BB1naQUE
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-war-recruitment/32310040.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/15/bribes-and-hiding-at-home-the-ukrainian-men-trying-to-avoid-conscription
The same media that hides and covers up the fact that Russia is doing exactly what you’re describing to its own citizens.
Well, I never claimed that Russia is the good guy here, but they are not doing exactly the same. They have conscription, but they don't fucking kidnap people from the streets (or at least on a way smaller scale..) and they don't turn their country into a mass prison that you can't leave.
and the country chose to defend itself
Zelensky's regime decided to turn country into a mass-prison and kidnap people and send them to die. It is not "country choosing to defend itself".
I’m sure they’d be ashamed to know you think so little of your brother and sister Ukrainians
My Ukrainian "brothers" either already escaped Ukraine, or are trying to, or just trying to survive there. The "sisters" left a long time ago.
it sure sounds like you’d rather have a Russian boot on your neck
What "Russian boot"? I might have missed what happened to people in Crimea, living under "Russian boot" for 10 years now... How many have died or been repressed? From Russia's hand I mean, not from Ukrainian shelling of Crimea..
But I mean yeah, obviously I'd prefer living under Russian boot than under Ukrainian boot, with Russian boot at least I'd not fear being kidnapped on the street and sent to die, and being able to freely leave a country sounds nice as well...
Ukrainians could have surrendered
No. We don't have a choice. We cannot even choose our president, much less choosing to end the war. We cannot speak out against our government (except anonymously like I do). People cannot even fucking leave their houses without fear of being kidnapped.
Quote needed :)
I've said that the west encouraged Zelensky to fight, and the part you've linked doesn't refute it.
"They" can fight all they want, till the last person standing if they want. They are forcing other people to fight for them though.