bleph @ bleph @lemmy.world

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Lemmy really needs filter words for times like these.

I'd also like to argue that they can't talk about Reddit itself over there any more because of the pervasive manipulation and censorship so we should make space for that conversation over here.

I think you are right about the normal users but I think they alienated a big percentage of top mods. I think the consequences of that are just starting to manifest.

If memory serves, it's in reference to the ancient mammal and also the metal band

Agreed, here's to hope, cheers!

For the record, when I posted that reply the parent only read "yes 🙌"

I was saltier than I would like to be in retrospect though, I cut it out of a comment.

Yeah, the international politics of climate are absolute shit. I think we have to survive and resist this worldwide lurch rightwards before that will change.

I happen to believe fascism isn't inevitable, just has to be continually resisted. I also think that using fascism to describe anything that isn't "pure" socialism removes all the meaning from the word and makes it less useful against people like Trump.

I do, however, appreciate the good faith discussion and respect, I think we're maybe getting some consensus haha

I 100% agree both parties will resist as much as possible.

I personally think campaigning for electoral reform is better than trying to fully overthrow the existing system but I agree it is a very uphill battle.

So, do we agree that climate policy has been mixed-bag both in "The West" and China? (Everybody is touting their green tech while still building new fossil fuel extraction and plants)

Even if you were sure a tankie government would deliver better on climate change, what are the odds that "the revolution" leads to a full fascist government instead?

Surely the Right outguns us 10 to 1?

Yeah that's where we are very far apart.

What do you think happens on Jan 20, '25 if he is elected? The president has essentially unlimited control over both the military and all federal law enforcement.

Trump is angry and wounded.

Do you think it's just going to be a big farce like last time?

Here's a vivid description I think is much more likely.

Well if we're talking "abolish the 2-party system" (with electoral reform) then I'm 100% agreed

Why do you assume that socialist systems won't also experience a gravitational pull towards fascism? In my opinion that's universal across all political systems. Also aren't all extant "state owns the means of production" counties quite fascist?

Indeed, I am calling out to that sordid history.

Are you REALLY saying you predict no difference in how Trump vs Biden would respond such a strike?

Well I'm glad I don't have to have the Cornel West argument here.

I think we agree that the whole Earth is in a dangerous and precarious situation and far too many people are still not acknowledging this?

Do you disagree that Biden has delivered more policy for the Left as a whole than any president since LBJ?

And the Nordic countries just don't exist?

So say by some miracle the political will to have a General Strike builds in America in 2026. Do you want to find out if Donald Trump will bring back the proud tradition of using the US army as a strikebreaking force after he has replaced all the leadership across the military with cronies? (The president can do this at will)

Would you rather Joe Biden was president instead?

Ok....so because the New Deal didn't... overthrow capitalism forever.... therefore working within the system is pointless?

I found that argument very unconvincing.

I think the author's definition of fascism is nonsensical and ahistorical.

I agree that capitalism has the tendency to concentrate power (like every other social or political system ever in the history of humans), but the idea that we should just abandon the levers of power to the kind of people who want Donald Trump to be president is so insane to me.

The author even concedes that Donald Trump is uniquely bad but then bends over backwards trying to get back to his comfortable "both sides" narrative

So ... all capitalism is fascism; therefore "both sides are the same"; therefore reject incremental progress as illegitimate?

So until we get single payer healthcare, you won't be happy with any other policy wins and you'd rather burn all your political capital fighting us instead of uniting against the literal fascists?