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  • To be fair, it has a lot of implications. Would your posts be reposted included the likes, reposts, replies, etc? The dependencies among this things can quickly get out of hand, especially in a federated context

  • I had a look at how Mastodon does it, it's not that much fancier to be honest, just a "The account has moved", and following the new account needs to be done manually by followers.

    Anyone viewing your profile can see this notice and will know to follow you at your new account. Following redirected accounts is not possible.

    https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moving/#migration

    Edit: even the moving feature does not move the posts

    Your posts will not be moved, due to technical limitations.

    I'm not aware of any federated service where complete migration is possible, do you have any in mind?

  • On the other hand, I see a few times a week some people saying that they only browse communities on their instance because they don't want to create accounts on every instance, and they cannot use their credentials on other instances.

  • people canโ€™t migrate their account to another instance after joining

    Just for reference, the recommended workaround to export the subs and block lists is https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

  • Perhaps I can elaborate on โ€œthe other sideโ€, or at least my side, and people could perhaps understand why people disagree with the mirroring?

    Seems great, let's see! And thanks for appreciating the post!

    I'm going to skip a few as we already discussed them in another comment.

    Try looking at it from the perspective of people like me who have been using Linux for years or decades - Who cares about โ€œthe year of the Linux desktopโ€?

    Nobody serious involved in Linux really cares about the year of the Linux desktop. What people should be wary of, is not experiencing the year of Diaspora's death. And I'm saying this as Diaspora is ironically the second biggest service on the Fediverse according to https://diaspora.fediverse.observer/stats. I should have probably used SocialHome as an example: https://socialhome.network/ https://github.com/jaywink/socialhome

    Yes, or take โ€œdrasticโ€ measures like blocking whole instances or migrating data to external storage. My previous home instance got overloaded due to lack of proper admin tools and literally had to shut down due to a lack of storage space during the reddit influx. Cries of help, โ€œIโ€™m out of spaceโ€, from admins of smaller instances comes up in various support communites every so often. Itโ€™s not a scalability issue if you have the funds to just increase resources. So yes and no IMO.

    Makes sense, thanks for your insight!

  • Iโ€™m confused about the difference between a lurker and someone requiring an account, yet donโ€™t want to interact with the community. Why canโ€™t people who leave a platform and create a new identity โ€œlurkโ€/browse the old place for content, no matter if leaving reddit or lemmy?

    Because people to use one thing. It seems pretty similar to why people only wanted to keep Whatsapp, and not install Signal next to it. You could definitely say that they could use both side-by-side, but it seems against most of the users natural behaviour. They want one thing.

    My own preferences still stand, I donโ€™t want to interact with current reddit regulars.

    And it's valid. I see a lot of crap between the few gems I stumble upon, so I completely get it.

  • So apparently it is โ€œeventuallyโ€ supposed to let Reddit and Lemmy users interact with each other.

    It's already working as a prototype, as mentioned here: https://communick.news/comment/1229610

    Here is the example: https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1857wsg/question_instead_of_nextcloud_why_not_use_a_ftps/kb0ozc5/

    Why would they leave their community with 99% of the people to move to a smaller inactive community that only has any action at all due to copying content from the site that they are already on?

    Because then they would be interested in using the third party Lemmy apps and not the abomination that the Reddit one is.

    It doesnโ€™t make any sense!

    And still Mastodon set-up a lot of repost bots when it started to attract people to the platform, by showing them they wouldn't miss the content they wanted to see.

    It also required Twitter going to crap, but Reddit seems to be following that trend.

    Is it currently accomplishing its goal of bringing actual new users to Lemmy

    It is: https://lemmy.ca/comment/5397535

    But if you want a data report with all the migrations successfully done thanks to the tool, that's probably too much to ask now

  • I donโ€™t think there are any high quality discussions left to be had with the current suite of redditors.

    First of all, thanks for your comment, I appreciate the discussion.

    To answer your point, Iโ€™m not so sure, there are more spectrums and gradations than clear-cut groups.

    Iโ€™m probably against the grain here, but I still see some quality content on Reddit among the thrash.

    And when I tell those people who post interesting content why they donโ€™t come to Lemmy, they explain that they donโ€™t have the time to post everything twice, and even if Reddit is bad, itโ€™s still where most of the people are.

  • Then why not lurk at reddit for reddit content if itโ€™s not about interacting with the community?

    Because people might want to have a look at a platform before considering moving to it, and they would consider it because they wouldn't be afraid of missing out on their usual content.

    It would be a nightmare, thereโ€™s a clear difference between the people that have joined Lemmy because they wanted, those who joined Lemmy because Reddit became shit and those still on Reddit.

    I'm not so sure, there are more spectrums and gradations than clear-cut groups.

    I'm probably against the salt here, but I still see some quality content on Reddit among the thrash. When I tell those people who post interesting content why they don't come to Lemmy, they explain that they don't have the time to post everything twice, and even if Reddit is bad, it's still where most of the people are.

    It's probably this people that Fediverser is targeting.

  • Interesting, thanks.

    Kbin/Mbin seems more and more promising, that's good

  • I was talking specifically about the ones in Fediverser. In this case, it's quite simple to block the communities.

    If bots started spamming fediverse@lemmy.world I donโ€™t agree that the best course of action would be for users to block the community.

    That's indeed another issue, and I agree with you that bots shouldn't be able to spam there.

  • You can select languages you want to see in your account settings

  • all far-right trolls are from there.

    Interesting, my personal experience has been more spread, including a few very toxic users on lemme.ee.

  • Join-lemmy was different at the time. There were only a few instances listed, and most of them where either quite selective in their registration, completely closed, or open. LW was among the last ones.

    There was also the trend (and I did it as well) to tell Reddit users to "just go to LW, it's like Reddit" to avoid having to confuse them with federation.

  • I see where you come from. From a lurker point of view, it doesn't change that much, though.

    If in the near future the communication would be both ways, what would you think of the tool?

  • I'm part of a non-English speaking instance, we got reminded several times to tag our content appropriately. I think I reminded other non-English instances too.

    Meme communities are usually block by people who don't like them. That's the same for every other content.

    The All feed is useful to discover new content, especially with Scaled sort. If you have an alt on lemmy.ml you should try it, it's quite good to bring content from niche but active communities.

  • At the time, LW was among the only ones that could handle the influx of registrations.

    So naturally, it became the default one, as people would want to get on the biggest one, similar to a way the biggest Mastodon instance is very prevalent.

    People were also afraid their All feed won't be as full if they were not on LW.

    Nowadays I think the repartition is a bit better, and most of the top communities have at least an equivalent out of LW.