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  • You actually changed my postion on this. "If you want to talk about using the traditional national motto. It was “e pluribus unum” and was established during the birth of the nation." - I agree and it seems reasonable.

    Although, I still don't see a problem with "In God We Trust" (because of the reasons I wrote before) as it's a part of the tradition now and something that almost everyone associates with the US.

    As for the influence in schools - both sides are doing that. Sadly, all that political bullshit breaks over children's back.

  • I mean, you said that most of the country is still christian? So, in a democratic society which is mostly christian there is a motto that references times when even more of the country was christian and the soul of the country was mostly christian?

    Yeah, a huge problem.

  • As far as I know, Supreme Court ruled that it does not establish religion. I'd say the same if most of the country was Hindu and it referenced their deity. It's a fucking motto and most motto's are outdated and show some cultural reference to the people long gone.

  • A Hindu shouldn't feel bad because the motto was established back when most of the people in US were christians. You know, motto's, flags, and things alike tend to become outdated but are part of a tradition and as such still used.

  • It meant something and it still partially does for a big part of the country. Also, it's part of tradition and a phrase that US is recognizable across the globe. Nothing wrong with it unless you hate faith/catholicism. Currently, it's being used to provoke the left and people shouldn't fall for that provocation. Other countries and regions also have some historical motto's that partially or fully lost their meaning through time, but are part of a tradition and recognizability.