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  • you abuse them

    another falsehood.

  • They are completely innocent

    you can't be innocent without moral agency. are trees and rocks innocent, too?

  • What you are consuming is the traumatized remains of beings who were basically children, who were confined as part of a perpetual holocaust that’s being conducted at an unprecedented scale.

    this is purely appeal to emotion. it's not even true. it's not a holocaust.

  • What you are doing is directly supporting a system that is routinely putting billions of lives through a real life hell - their entire existence is suffering - only to be butchered at the equivalent of an adolescent or juvenile age.

    another lie

  • YOU are the one who is continuing to live in a way that’s morally repugnant.

    false

  • it is not my job to educate you.

    it's your job to support your claims

  • We can look at vote records and note that Duverger’s Law matches electoral records, and it is based on real world observation of elections

    so? so tell me what the split is going to be in november using duverger's law. make a prediction using it.

  • you ignored the issue of Duverger’s Law.

    just as i would have if you'd raised the book of revelation. lots of people believe it predicts the future, but it doesn't.

  • what's the point?

    i don't believe you're open to learning anything here. anyone who is reading this conversation can easily make up their own mind about who's right.

  • if you're a leftist, and you are voting for biden, don't pretend it's because he's a leftist or will help leftists. he's not and he won't.

  • Did you know that I pointed out issues with your arguments?

    no. you raised irrelevant objections.

  • it was a nonsequitur that would have led us away from you answering the question, which you still haven't done (and, frankly, i never expected you to do)

  • this is called a "horse laugh" fallacy or, formally, an appeal to ridicule

  • Ah. So somehow we've meandered our way back around from Central and South America

    you mean i didn't take teh bait on your nonsequitur

  • That means, third parties are out unless ranked choice is a thing.

    why would a leftist vote for a conservative politician? they wouldn't

  • Sure, try arguing when was the last time third party has made a dent

    the prohibition party got an amendment passed

  • Who are you planning to vote for

    frankly i havent decided yet

    i've been giving money to cornel west, but jill stein said the greens could hit 5% this year

  • you very well know that you can’t convince educated leftists to split their vote to give it to Trump

    leftists certainly wouldn't give their vote to trump

  • You, the 3rd party voter, can’t even cite when they have ever made a dent in the nation-wide voter

    you never asked, and, frankly, there is a cure for historical illiteracy, too