banneryear1868 @ banneryear1868 @lemmy.world

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"The movement values and principles" is a fairy tale tech hobbyists tell themselves to feel like their consumer preferences have grandiose importance.

My use case is finding good online communities for my offline interests wherever they exist, and I've found some solid ones on Discord. This is why I agree with every point you've raised but find them ineffective at making me want to not use it. I value the connections I make with people through the platform more than any of the nerd reasons why I'm supposed to be bad for using it. Ultimately I don't care about the platforms that much, they're just transient things which come and go. So I'll host a Matrix instance until something else is better, I'll use Discord for running my weekly dnd group because nothing else worked for everyone and it's been solid for 3 years. "Discord's product is not usability" ...okay I guess I'll stop using it now. /s That just falls flat. To stop using it the reasons I use it will have to go away.

I've faced similar arguments about how I have a Windows machine for media creation, people try to debate me that there's better alternatives assuming I haven't tried them or that I don't prioritize FOSS, but they don't even have a connection to the scene I use this stuff for and they think some nerd technology argument is a valid reason to stop doing what I love. It's like yeah every point raised is completely valid, but people will debate the ins and outs of platforms and software before they ever apply them to something beyond themselves.

It's like okay you don't like the new Milwaukee battery line of tools, but here's a kitchen I made with them so just stfu and eat your food.

Just goes back to what the use case is. You're alluding to a case where Discord is being used for content that should be easily searchable on the wide internet. Platforms like Discord including the FOSS alternatives aren't good for that by their very design. The notion that every web service should be wide open and searchable is antithetical to privacy, which is ironically often cited as a huge downside to Discord. With the privately hosted Matrix instance I use with close friends for instance being isolated from the wide internet is the whole point.

it really isn’t a replacement of something like a forum, website, or wiki.

Discord adds streaming channels and effortless multimedia which is huge. What I do on Discord isn't possible on these other examples.

It sucks everything without any way to find it again.

What's the use case here exactly? Some servers are disorganized af and trying to use the platform in the wrong way. The search function seems to work fine for whatever I need it for though.

It's legit bad for certain uses like any platform, sometimes people try to use it for those things. Linuxbros don't like the idea of Discord in general regardless, for them the platform takes president over whatever people do on it, and assume that since the platform is bad anyone who uses it is stupid.

I don't really care about the platform if it has good communities on it, and I've found a lot on Discord which I haven't found anywhere else. I'm on an electronic music production server where people share works in progress, help each other, big names in the scene use it out of genuine interest as well. I've shared my own stuff and connected with people in the scene across the world to share our project files and instrument presets etc. Don't really care about Discord though and would gladly use any platform with a community like this on it. Saying "Discord sucks" and referencing legit reasons why isn't going to convince me it hasn't been useful for passions I have offline.

Also I've hosted a weekly dnd sesh on Discord for three years now after we went through basically every other platform through trial and error. We had no loyalty to anything and Discord has just been the one that works. Super great for organizing a campaign we run through a virtual table top platform.

A lot of the FOSS alternatives are way better at a technical level, I use Matrix for our friend group's privately hosted chat server every day. Haven't found anything comparable to the communities I've found on Discord though.

Pretty sure you can't even use the Flipper in the way thieves are using cheap alibaba radio amplifiers on the proximity fobs that people keep near their front door...

Phone number is the weakest form of 2FA but it's still an improvement. I've never had to use my phone in Discord though, I don't how Discord would even verify someone's phone number as legitimate. But like I said I have a couple Discord accounts with different emails, probably on 30-40 servers, and have never run in to this. So if they're collecting personal details in this really granular and specific manner, it seems like they're not doing a very good job at it.

Adding the qualifier of "since 2022" seems to presume there's an unspoken taboo between western liberal media that Putin shan't be interviewed, rather than Putin being more restrictive than he already was and seeing an opportunity in Tucker. Lionel Barber is probably the closest a "real" US journalist could have been to Putin and writes about the increasing difficulty of this in 2020. This includes psychological tricks like being made to wait excessively long to weaken his cognition before the meeting. He has a good piece on Tucker's interview about how Putin ran the show and used him.

The reason why Putin chose this interview is because Tucker is a locus of division in US politics. Tucker isn't raising Putin's platform, Putin is raising Tucker's platform. This imbues Tucker's reactionary politics with more legitimacy, which benefits Putin.

Facebook helped establish the smaller more frequent changes as the norm vs the "redesign" from the older days.

This line of critique is wrongheaded and empowers Tucker. Putin already commands a platform far above Tucker's, a media figure cannot provide a bigger platform for Putin than the one he already has. Many liberal journalists have interviewed Putin without facing this critique, it's applied here because Tucker is a reactionary shithead.

The better critique is that you have for-profit entertainment companies capitalizing on this, and how that affects the content.

Never been in to the Linus stuff beyond specific videos related to a general search

I don't use an OS for some identity or hype reason, they're just tools that allow me to do what I actually want to do with computers. Server and laptop are Debian and my power desktop is Windows.

RollJam and RollBack are the exploits for bypassing rolling codes. These exploits are possible because you can replay captured codes at a later time.

What's happening in most cases is the proximity-based fobs are simply amplified with a device to reach the person's car in the driveway, since most people keep their keys by the door, and in some cases even within reach of the car without a device. It's this low hanging fruit where the theft happens, or just a tow truck...

The Flipper is more of an enthusiast and pranking device. The devices used in actual thefts are like disposable $50 alibaba pieces of shit. Canada is effectively creating a clandestine market for simple radio amplifiers made from the most basic electronic components. As someone in Canada who used to build the classic cmoy Altoid-tin headphone amps to sell on etsy, this is tempting...

Enforcing two factor because of suspicious indicators isn't bad on it's own though, it's privacy concerns about Discord preceding this which makes it a bad thing in this context.

The one I referenced there was the Dirtywave discord, highly recommend checking it out, and I think they have a channel for partner servers. The lines forum is also a great community if you're in that musical space. I couldn't name a good music discord for lets say traditional genres or general production, the thing I like about what I've found is it's niche. Like once I posted a work in progress and someone active in a scene for the genre I was going for messaged me and we chatted about our approaches and traded some instrument and project files we'd built on the device, all though discord.

So to me I want that type of community, what platform it's on isn't really something I care about all that much.

Yeah I just scrolled passed that shit cause it shocked me too much to engage. Not exactly proud of my b-slur days, but also wasn't the best time in my life, and there was something oddly welcoming about the site back then. A site where everyone called each other a f*g in ironic comradery vs having it thrown at me by homophobes. Would have never associated the site with anything good though, using it was like willfully exposing yourself to something insane at the click of a button. If you were the right mix of computer nerd and socially isolated, 4chan offered something that you couldn't get anywhere else.

Almost 20 years later I actually value the experience of being on 4chan more because of how influential it became to online culture, and later how politics happens on the the internet, and the demographic who uses it becoming so identifiable. It's very rare but on a few occasions I've come across normal people in real life who were b-slurs at the same time, and it's crazy how recognizable it is.

I don't know of any either and I'm on like 40+ servers probably. I've run our weekly dnd on it for years without issue after trying the other options. Get that it's not good for tracking and documentation in any official capacity but it's pretty damn good for active niche interest communities.

The music production servers I'm on are a perfect use of the platform IMO. There's a server run by a guy who manufactures an open source tracker device, and there's channels where people post works in progress, get help from others, there's streaming events where people can submit songs they've made using the device, etc. There's a bunch of people popular in the music scene who regularly help noobs. Always ongoing active discussions, everyone is polite, there's a lot of knowledge shared in real time.

So when people are like "Discord sucks use my favorite platform instead," I'm just like I don't even care about the platform I just wanna be where some cool shit is happening and your platforms are fucking boring. Show me the cool servers on your platform then so I actually want to use it. It's the idea of these platforms people like, and I like it too, my close social group uses a privately hosted Matrix service which I use every day, but I've never found a comparable community on these services outside of this use case.

Yeah I remember in the 00s it was an instant ipban to post pedo shit, but also pedobear and joking about it was common. It seemed like people would post actual abuse materials to troll the site but it was quickly dealt with. I was there for "brb church" though where 4chan vigilantes lured an actual pedo and had them arrested.

I was a b-slur through the 00s and I dunno if anyone would say it was "good," but it was definitely less irony poisoned.

Requires a phone number

It's just an email based user ID, I have multiple Discord accts and never used a phone number with it