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Ah yes… “the economy”… or in other word’s rich people’s yacht money.

😌 It truly was the good old days when we just had a global pandemic to worry about.

The outcome wasn’t even decided on Palestine. And the majority of people who are against the genocide understood what was at stake, tried to push Harris left but voted for her in the end.

So you can stop trying to scapegoat anyone who is against genocide as being somehow responsible for this outcome.

If her base had spent more time calling her out for simultaneously calling Trump “hilterian” while also copying Hitler’s policies and chasing after those Republican votes and trying to please her corporate masters rather than fighting for the working class and using left wing economic policies to go after the billionaires and do something substantial about the everyday cost of living, housing, food, healthcare things would have turned out different.

She needed those working class votes - all the people who will never own a home, can’t afford to go to a doctor and don’t give two shits about Palestine one way or the other.

It sure might have given her a bump if she had made any kind of signal that she would make any kind of change on Palestine post-election. Apply American law to stop some shipments of weapons to an active genocide. Instead we got “most lethal military in the world” and Walz saying Israel must expand its borders. You have to understand that people who know Trump is much worse would still vote for her given the circumstances, but that’s not going to cause a surge of a big group of people to get out and vote.

Still it may not have been enough without going to the mat to fight for the working class.

Like really, imagine if it was your family and friends who had been killed in their beds by a year of slaughter by Biden / Harris / Netanyahu. And people are telling you “yeah but you’ve gotta vote for the people who killed your family or the other guys might start killing more people”. I don’t know about you but if all my family and friends had already been killed I might not have the energy to go out and vote for their murderers, or even have the will to live or participate in this fucked up world anymore.

You can’t just shut down any leftist voices and continually run to the right and expect to win. If the voters who have been groomed for years on right-wing content want Hitler they’ve going to choose the real deal not Hitler-lite.

If you throw your hands up and decide you’re now pro-genocide all of a sudden because you’ve scapegoated the victims of genocide, I don’t think you were ever really opposed to it, and you’re likely to accept the next genocide and the one after that.

It’s gonna be like when he fired all those Twitter staff then hire some back again. Or when we got a bunch of servers shut down without knowing what they do and locked people out of their accounts. Or like the fucking CyberCuck.

Yeah it’s completely unhinged that people are still going on about “beheaded babies” and “women being raped” when it turns out they were just more Israeli lies.

And the evidence says Netanyahu knew about the raid at least 4 hours before it happened. And a lot of the hostages and soldiers were killed by Israeli Apache helicopters under the Hannibal Directive.

There’s also the evidence that Palestinians treated hostages humanely, taking them out shopping, making them birthday cakes and so on.

Imagine the world without America / Israel invading anywhere that showed any sign of building a socialist society.

Just to rub in the fact we’re in the most cursed timeline possible.

Israelis are what the Nazis dreamed of being.

So completely disenfranchise the poor and working class whose education system has been purposefully destroyed by the ruling class, and only let the ruling class vote?

I can just see Musk giving Trump estimates of when his robot army will be ready so they can get rid of us all.

And I imagine it’s going to be like the timeline of “full self driving”.

Only people against the genocide of Palestinians and against Zionism get to be called Nazis and anti-semites.

People waving actual Nazi flags are “free speech advocates” or “demonstrators”, and certainly not Nazis.

I know it’s hard to imagine but there are people further to the left of rich corporate Democrat libs. They fucked up and they need to learn from their mistakes and finally put economically left Democrats like Bernie Sanders and AOC into power just like many have been yelling and screaming at them to do for years if they want any chance if that’s even possible at this point.

They can’t just follow Republicans further to the right, doing nothing for working people, following Trump on border policies, policing policies, giving money to their rich friends, do a genocide, then sprinkle on some vague culture war bullshit then call it a day and expect to win.

Or you can just call anyone who calls you out a Trumpist, change nothing, and keep losing.

What do you mean “their preferred candidate”. Is everyone opposed to genocide a Trump supporter now? You’ve completely lost the plot.

In every analysis Harris’s loss was due to being an out of touch corporate Democrat and not appealing to the working class.

Also Rashida Tlaib was opposed to the genocide and won seats. If you had pushed Harris to break from Biden and oppose the genocide in any way shape or form she would have only gained voters. Morality aside that was a bad strategy.

Regardless, Palestine was not the deciding factor in the Libs getting demolished, it was their own hubris and inability to take a Sander’s style hard swing to the left and fight for working people.

They’re all getting fed this trash by Nick Fuentes, 4chan trolls, Elon musk, Andrew Tate, Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson, YouTube algorithms which push right wing content, and the list goes on.

And this has all been done on purpose. American children can’t get a proper meal at school. Low paid teachers buying their own school supplies. Kids bombarded with reactionary media trash, tracking, and behaviour manipulation from their phones. College students saddled with debt and not being able to afford homes. Homelessness criminalized. Prisoners turned into slave labor.

Yep, it’s to let everyone know that you can commit any kind of violence as long as you’re wearing a red hat and the fuhrer will pardon you.

Oh Bernie…. Bernie would have given us a chance with real solutions and hope for the working class and would have been able to push back on Israel without being smeared as an antisemite.

But no, the DNC would never let him.

https://youtu.be/M8msrOt7-Ec?

Taylor Swift Mockingjay arc?

I think you’re right. Everyone is bowing down and kissing the ring.

If Democrats want any respect they need to act bravely in unison now and erect every possible barrier possible.

One of the problem with liberals is they believe we live in a somewhat fair and just world where laws work, justice takes time, and if you play by the rules everything will work out fine.

Fascists will nod along with liberals while thinking they’re a bunch of idiots and will use their naivety against them until they gain power, then turn to violence.

Trump has a lot of plans to put into place effect so there will be a lot of balls in the air and actors on the field.

Everyone needs to block them, disrupt them, distract them in any way possible.

I always say hippies are just conservatives who wear zany clothes and compost.