atmur @ atmur @lemmy.world

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it would be a distro recommendation discussion with out at least some disagreement

I would be disappointed if there wasn't, lol

I actually put quite a bit of thought into how I wanted to go over forks/downstream distros, and I may have come to a weird conclusion but I decided discouraging them was the best option because:

1. Distros like Manjaro/EndeavourOS are being described as "beginner friendly" when beginners should not be starting with anything Arch based. Listing out individual bad examples would just make the entire message more confusing.
2. People will always google their question in the format of "distro name" + "problem". Someone with Linux experience using KDE Neon will know to google "ubuntu problem" because it's just Ubuntu, but a beginner will google "kde neon problem" and will find very few results. Alternatively, if they're using an upstream distro, that search will (probably) return lots of thorough results with more information on why exactly that problem occurred.
3. Upstream is (generally) less likely to break than downstream, although this shouldn't be an issue for well managed downstream distros. But again, listing specific examples will make things more confusing.

Regarding Linux Mint and Wayland, I completely agree. I didn't know that Cinnamon/Mint still didn't support Wayland, so that should've moved Mint into the tentative recommendation category.

I made this post a while ago as a joke, but I've been thinking ever since that it might be neat to actually make a proper guide...so here's that.

I mostly made this with LibreOffice Draw, plus Krita for the mess of logos on page 1. Project files are here if anyone wants to modify this and make their own version.

EDIT: And I've immediately noticed a typo in the imgur export. Welp, too late now.

It did not. Terry Davis said that "It has no networking or Internet support. As far as I'm concerned, that would be reinventing the wheel."

Terry was a bizarre man.

This makes me really happy to see. Desktop Linux is fucking amazing nowadays. Gnome and KDE being as excellent as they are, Flatpak massively simplifying package management for end users, and Pipewire being Pipewire have all gone a long way in making desktop Linux more easily approachable and incredibly stable. If I'm allowed to be controversial, I'd include Wayland in that list as well.

I fucking love the open source community.

I was going to joke about compatibility, but apparently there is a version of Raspberry Pi OS for desktops...huh, TIL

I've decided that you have to use Slackware

yeah that's my bad, here's a corrected version

I totally agree, that's a way more important factor when you're starting out with Linux.

Gotta be Gnome though

Yeah, this meme is mostly to poke fun at the people who genuinely think that Linux Mint is only for beginners or you have to switch to Arch or whatever else, that kind of crowd.

I'm a little bit tempted to try and make an actual flowchart with distro recommendations since I've used and like most of the major ones at this point, but there are better resources out there than what I could contribute.

I literally just switched to openSUSE yesterday because I'm trying out an Intel Arc GPU for a bit and wanted more recent packages than Fedora offers to give it the best chance possible. Gotta say...it's really good. Once I'm done testing the Intel card, I don't think I'll be switching back.

the ultimate beginner's distro, it's a great start before moving on to something complicated like mint

100% agree. I do value my time, which is the reason I use Linux.

For a typical Linux issue, there’s almost always a sane reason why it wasn’t doing what you’re expecting and is relatively easy to find and fix. In the end, you’ve fixed the problem and have gained a bit of knowledge.

For a typical Windows issue, just reinstall, because it will be faster than figuring out what asinine thing has broken this time. You’ve learned nothing and wasted time, but it’s better than spending hours tracking down a potentially unfixable issue.

That Queens of the Stone Age album is so good

I really like KDE, but I’ve been daily driving Gnome since version 40. Insanely polished and I really like the workflow of everything. I do wish they were faster in implementing stuff like VRR though.

Fedora Workstation on desktop, perfect mix of stability and up-to-date packages.

Unraid on the NAS, does pretty much everything I need and haven’t put any thought into using something else.

Ubuntu Server on a few VMs, although I’ll probably look into different options in the future as I’m not a huge fan of Ubuntu.

Arch/SteamOS on Steam Deck, of course.

Debian for anything that I just need to run forever.

Users will have the option to disable data upload before any data is sent for the first time. Our service will be operated by Fedora on Fedora infrastructure, and will not depend on Google Analytics or any other controversial third-party services. And in contrast to proprietary software operating systems, you can redirect the data collection to your own private metrics server instead of Fedora's to see precisely what data is being collected from you, because the server components are open source too.

To be fair, if they want to collect telemetry data, this is probably the best way to do it.