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  • ok but if the source of the server is not know, how can the client be save?

    I know how e2ee works but couldn't a bad closed-source server still be a problem?

    btw. not trying to call you out, I just really want to know, cuz I cant get my head around it 🙈🙊

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  • but if this is your argument, you could also say that Telegram is good because their client can also be built from their open source. of course you have to activate e2ee on a 1-1 chat first...

  • that's why I love great communities like this one here. you aks one think, maybe totally overthinking and read an answer like this, which helps you realize the overthinking :)

    thanks for that. what you say makes sence. I really NEED to make a threat-model to find out, what is worth keeping private and what isn't worth the trouble.

    Thank you :)

  • oh ok, I have not tried that yet. I have only set up one address which I use yo send and receive from.

    about the encryption: I thought the point with e2ee encryption on proton is mainly, that the mails are stored encrypted one their servers so they can not read them or hand them out to anyone.

  • I looked inyo runbox and it looks like a really good option. what concerns me is, that it is hosted in Norway and that Norway is part of the "Fourteen Eyes alliance". Would you still recommend it?

  • i like to have temp-adresses but it is a little to annoying for me to extend them after 90 days 🙈 with proton this is easier since you dont need to remeber that and you can find this option pretty easy when in tge webbrowser of choice.

  • well I'd say signal is one of the best options as there are many others. Regarding the phonenumber: as far as I know, it is stored hashed so signal does not really know your phonenumber. so this would not concern me.

  • you are correct and it is true that it is better to have many options. Although it is a little iffy that still many people belive in the fact, that it is private and secure.

    Also I totally agree on what you are saying: dont push people into something they dont want simply explain the possible downsides and move on.

    I'd still wouldn' t use it so communicating with me is will still not be done via Telegramm :D