ameancow @ ameancow @lemmy.world

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I do not see how Lemmy helps with anything other than allowing people another excuse for escapism and scrolling on the internet over actually developing life skills, seeing new sights, socializing with humans, getting better at understanding people, and actually making an effort to communicate with others, doing some small part to make the world better.

Is there really a rash of hate going around for people who... watch cartoons? I mean, maybe in the 90's that might have been the case, right now I just see vast, vast swaths of people indulging in nostalgia.

Professionals and CEO's with action figures on their desks, "man-caves" decorated in people's childhood memorabilia... it's just normal. How desperate do you have to be to feel like an oppressed victim to both make and circulate bullshit like this.

KGB handbook describes this in great detail. Amplify and boost the loudest, worst voices on both sides of every political and social issue, so that people hate each other and everyone thinks the worst of each other, thus embracing the worst image the other side has of each other.

Further, by making literally every issue, no matter how small, into a contentious debate where you can't tell what's real or not, the average voter or citizen just starts to tune it all out.

Why do you think the general public is abandoning science and basic liberal democracy? Why do you think people suddenly seem to not care about basic empathy or rights for fellow citizens?

They've all tuned out, they don't care anymore because everything is too stupid, too nonsensical, too contentious, so the alternative is to buy whatever the leadership says, keep your head down, and get back to work. Welcome to the end of the cold war. Victory to Russia.

You would be astonished how many people interview who have no fucking business trying to work at said establishment.

You would also be shocked how many people are just giant assholes because they perceive the hiring manager as "authority" instead of just someone else trying to do their job who has to meet hundreds of people and make a decision that their own job is riding on.

Some people have such a strong aversion to work or having a job or a boss at all that they are rude, hostile or uninterested in the interview process. I've had people call in to interviews while at drive-throughs. One called in from in bed, half awake. Another in-person was drunk/high and stumbled out while ranting about "the man" and conspiracy shit.

Look guys, if you want a job, you have to understand it's a competition. It's not even the hardest competition you'll ever take part in, but if you put in a LITTLE effort, you can get a job and pay for your shit. Everyone just wants to pay for their shit, including the poor schlub trying to hire for their company.

You know, you don't HAVE to get a job.

Do you have a good relationship with your parents?

Do you have any older, wealthier people in your neighborhood who expressed that you're attractive?

Do you or your family have paid-off land that can be worked for sustenance?

There are TONS of options other than working!

The idea that the person who gets nothing from an interview should be thankful for the opportunity is utterly brain dead.

The other perspective is that after digging through literally hundreds or thousands of applications, I picked you and we both took a huge chunk out of our day to try to connect. Did you like the interview? Did you have questions after? Did I do a good job explaining the role? There's so much left unsaid after an interview that it does help to give a hiring manager closure, particularly if they have to interview a dozen other people that day. You're not dancing for my enjoyment, you're showing you care more than the 11 other people who shrugged and wandered off after without thinking about it. And the hundreds more in the following week or weeks.

I'm just more likely to remember people who seem engaged and enthusiastic to work.

The asshat in OP's image isn't representational of people who hire people in the average, every-day world.

In reality, most hiring is done by mid-level managers who have to interview dozens of people a week on top of doing their own work, and it's tiring and you don't get paid extra for it, and if you pick the wrong candidate your own ass is canned.

Yah, it really does help your chances if you show even a shred of actual desire to work there.

You are 100% correct in this.

And if I, a hiring manager, had to interview 30 people that week and couldn't decide who to put on the short list, I am definitely going to remember people who put in extra effort, and if we did have a great conversation, it can only help you if you remind me of that fact.

As a manager, I'm not sitting in some cushy lounge delighting in the misery of applicants, I'm struggling to both do my job AND interview people. It's fucking exhausting and takes up massive amounts of time. If I make a bad decision with company money, then my ass is canned. And there are a lot of people who half-ass it and are just giant wastes of time because they obviously don't want to work.

Why am I going to give extra time and attention to someone who doesn't want to be there? Someone explain it to me. I am astonished how many people don't understand the very basic basics of employment.

Right above you someone has posted how much they hate rejection letters and it got heaps of upvotes.

People just don't like working or looking for work. Nobody has any consistent values or takes on it, other than it all sucks.

It's often far less malicious. People don't get positions of mediocre responsibility because they're evil. Usually they're just mid managers who need more help and want to pick people who actually want to work, and their own job rides on making a good decision.

Because ya'll, you would be astonished how many shitty people show up for shitty interviews.

When I was a hiring I never wanted anyone to show subservience or beg. But I didn't want to lose my own job for making a poor decision, and if I interview 30 people in a week, I am more likely to remember and think more about people who make extra effort, which can look like a lot of things.

If I have a tough decision to make, unfortunately it does come down to a contest of who wants it most. At least I know if someone really wants the job they're less likely to slack off and jeopardize my position.

Because even if you do everything right, if I'm struggling to find a candidate because my own ass is riding on it and I talked to 30 people in a week, I might be more likely to remember someone who makes an extra effort over someone I just saw or heard from once. It's not about me the hiring manager, it's about who you're competing against for that position and specifically how many are competing against you.

It's not rocket science, it's not fun, but if you're serious about getting a job, it can help.

Honestly I'm constantly taken back by how hateful and bitter people are at the things you just need to do to get ahead in the world. You can raise very valid points that our system, our capitalist hellscape we all share makes us feel like tools, but we still gotta eat and pay our bills. How serious you are about getting those bills paid is entirely up to you.

The alternative is to embrace a victim-identity, and ask yourself if you really wanna be that.

A lot of the people jerking their knees at these "rituals" we do have never been in the position of actually having to hire someone.

Whatever your principles and attitude might be now, if you get into a role that requires you to make good decisions on who you're paying a ton of company money to, with your ass riding on it, you WILL adjust your ideas for how to make the best decisions.

The alternative is to not know, I don't care if they send a nicely worded rejection over ghosting.

A lot of bitter job-hunters in this post.

Harris would have been a strong candidate in any other epoch in American history.

What's changed is the average median voter's attention-span and engagement in politics. Exit polling showed most Trump voters were stuck on the price of groceries, which they blamed on Biden, and they thought Harris was just more Biden.

At other periods in history, I think voters would have understood what was at stake, who was responsible for what, and would have been just generally a little more connected and involved. 45% of eligible voters stayed home. And I honestly don't know if it would have mattered if they voted, because people were voting almost at random this last election cycle. Lifelong dems through to Bernie supporters all voting for Trump because "what the hell, why not see what happens" because they're so checked out, bored and disconnected from their larger community.

A good glimpse into our collective psyche can be seen in any major news outlet's science headlines every fucking day. "Scientists baffled at HUGE discovery of ancient structures on Mars! Unknown signals from Venus confirm scientist's worst fears! Giant eyeball planet found in space! Pyramids found to be generators for lost civilization!!!111"

These are all actual headlines from CNN, MSNBC and FOX. This is where the BULK of our society gets their information on the world around them. It doesn't matter if you care about science or not, the fact that the sources for ANY kind of accurate reporting have thrown in the towel and no longer give a shit about journalism says as much about the state of our countrymen and women as it does about the sorry state of media and journalism. Nobody cares anymore. Nobody knows what's real or not, so they just tune out and have been encouraged broadly to just "believe what makes you feel good."

I think what they mean is we're hiring an employee, but everyone doing the interviews believes themselves working at a different company.

The left has no issue with rming themselves

The last decade of the left withdrawing to their own spheres of niche ideology-sub-spectrums has resulted in nobody, even the left themselves, really knowing what "the left" is for or against anymore on a broad level. This is why there's so much infighting and disagreement and confusion about who believes in what, and of course all the endless purity testing and tribalism that comes with it. Some of this is because of deliberate social sabotage by paid agents, some of this is because of sociology and the nature of our brains. Either way it needs to be identified and understood as an obstacle to unified action.

I don't give two shits what specific brand of marxism you believe in, or if you're just a working liberal who wants things to go back to normal, or if you're some deeply sheltered and naive pacifist who genuinely thinks we're going to have some idealistic solarpunk future if we just did X, Y and Z. You all need to get armed and get prepared and probably do a lot of things you're either emotionally or ideologically uncomfortable with. Such is the nature of conflict.

• Get armed. If firearms really scare the everloving shit out of you, or if you've already painted yourself in a corner by preaching against guns around your peers your whole life, then get a fucking crossbow, I do NOT care, as long as you have means to put holes in someone from a distance. At the very least, you need pepper spray, tasers and other personal defense items and you need to practice how they're used and be ready to deal with multiple people who want to hurt you. Take self defense classes if you can.
• Get your shit together. If you're unhealthy, depressed, or have a list of issues that are preventing you from doing X, Y and Z. Now is the time to get that shit managed. Get to a doctor while you can, if you can't or they can't help, then do the very best you can on your own as soon as you can. You've been putting off the changes you know you need to make, now is the wake-up alarm, time to do that hard thing you've been waiting for "the right time" to start on to get your life managed.
• Save money. Freeze your credit cards. Stop ordering fast food or doordash. Stop eating out altogether. Rice and beans motherfucker, do you speak it?? If you don't know how to cook your own simple food at home, the only thing stopping you from learning how is your own motivation to type "How do I cook my own simple food at home?" into google and actually putting effort into it.
• Kill your vices. Related to above, I don't care if the substance you do daily is completely harmless to you and something you claim is medicinal and helps you sleep/stay awake, you gotta start stepping it down and putting that cash under your mattress and finding alternatives. This isn't about ethics or legality, this is about not spending your money on things you can live without even if the adjustment period will be hard. Again, now is the time to make those changes.
• Fix your attention span. It's worse than you think and it's preventing you from doing a lot of things you could be doing to make your life better and get healthier. If things get really, really bad, we need as many people as possible who can think clearly and analyze situations from many perspectives. We need people who have read books and can be patient and calm in the face of stress. If nothing else, you will have a better normal life if you don't need to always have youtube videos of people reacting to tiktok videos playing on headphones before you can even read a work email.

If things somehow get better all around for everyone, then having done all this will only have made you and your life and outcomes better.

a brotherhood of man

What in the fantasy novel is this about

Richest man on Earth whines about other people being able to afford to buy protestors?

Funny that's how he thinks immediately, that movements can be bought and sold... almost makes you wonder huh...

"The elite wealthy who secretly run the whole government"

Oh, you mean you? YOU MEAN YOU ELON???