agitatedpotato @ agitatedpotato @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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If a plant has to eat animals to survive then that plant is a product of animal suffering. Thats why vegans don't drink milk or eat eggs too. So if that's the definition of vegan that someone subscibes to then the flytrap is not Vegan.

That doesn't change how the plant made those cells though.

If the plant is carnivorous are it's cells not the product of animal suffering?

Yeah, didn't we already know that? I feel like every cynic I know has already loudly said this . . .

Been volunteering at a food pantry and a lot of people would be shocked how many people there, volunteers included, who like him. I can also offer anecdotal evidence that where I'm at were distributing more food than we ever have. Donations aren't keeping up but they have a purchasing budget. We can go weeks without certain foodstuffs and sometimes when it all hits at once the storefront looks really grim. The town and state are smart enough to keep giving them what they need budget wise, but that's all that's keeping a lot of people's heads over water right now.

Oh yeah, the climate wars will absolutely start before we even know they are the climate wars, that's basically a fact.

I think were gonna see climate wars kick off before any kind of mass realization happens.

Your tax dollars at work. Fuck you if you have student loans, we'd rather spend our money making our shareholders rich though genocide.

Whens the last time a US military service member went on a shooting spree, adjust per capita, then compare. Yall are doing everything to try and derail my original point about militias.

And my point remains, when it comes to service members and LEOs, even Frances gun laws wouldnt stop this case. In fact, take the number of Cop and Military shooters, adjust per capita then compare the stats, because yall keep trying to derail my points about the well regulated militia stuff.

The point is that it happens 100 times more in the USA than in any other developed country

well since it happend twice in 3 years in france im assuming you have data for 70 yearly US LEO or Military member committed mass shooting yeah? Or are you gonna keep veering away from what ive actually been arguing this whole time again?

The comment you replied to it literally proof that this incident would still and does still happen in France. This whole time I've specifically been speaking about those that would be considered to be in a well regulated militia because that phrase is meaningless, as shown. French gun laws wouldn't stop this, the only country argument is moot here, because we're literally not the only country whos LEOs and military go on rampages.

They've killed dozens of journalists and even the family of a journalist. That family was staying in a building that was marked safe by the IDF for exactly these kinds of people. The US didnt let Saudi Arabia live down the bonesaw incident for years, have you heard any ranking politician in the US speak about the press slaughter? To me it seems a lot like a free pass.

I don't think Hamas had a long term goal here. I think Iran had the long term goal and shared intel with them and goaded the on to the attack. That's not to excuse anything or one, but in terms of startegy and blowback, I think Irans the one whos counting on that, and Israel is providing it. So all in all I'd say Iran got what they wanted and we're gonna see what they choose to do next.

They're gonna need to because 'Hey corporate land owner, were gonna make all this residentia' is gonna scare a lot of rich people. Which would be fine if we didn't run a market economy that collapsed if rich people get scared.

Well if you target Hamas but bomb an innocent family of five killing three, you probably just made two new Hamas members. Especially if the parents didn't survive, they know exactly whos gonna 'take care' of those orphaned kids.

A French cop went on a mass shooting in 2017. In 2020 an ex soldier in france went on a shooting. Sure it wasn't this year but acting like this doesn't happen elsewhere is wild. In fact the chances that the shooter is in a well regulated legal organization are higher elsewhere since the other people dont even have guns like that. So I assume Frances gun laws are a problem for you too since they cant stop their Law Enforcement from doing this?

Between active and reservists there are well over one million national guard memebers. The crimes of one of them hardly imply that the regulation is not good. Mistakes are possible, and considering he was let out of the psych hospital is it impossible to think the mistake even could have come from the profit driven org who makes the absolute thinniest proft margins from mental health care? What about the police, did they not also drop the ball, they could have seen this coming, this person was known publicly for his gun lust and extremism. Or is all the blame only on the one orginazation that makes your opinions the most correct looking?

Putting the Saudis to shame and making MBS jealous.

The National Guard is not well regulated? Im gonna wager your definition of well regulated is a body in which nothing bad ever happens, which is not what well regulated means, that's called perfection.

If the national guard isnt considered well regulated then nothing is, and clearly the writers of the bill didnt intend for 'well regulated' to be an impossible standard. So if well regulated is going to mean something it didnt mean from the authors then that phrase no longer has bearing on the right, and shockingly enough the US Judicial system agrees with and upheld that.

This was a shooting by a member of a well regulated milita. That phrase or organization structure is not a magic spell that stops crime. The authors would have written 'crime free' instead of well regulated if that's what they meant.

Was the man not in the national guard? Seems he was exactly a part of a well regulated militia. That doesn't just automatically stop gun crime.