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It can be frustrating without being the most frustrating thing. Mild annoyance repeated many times becomes pretty annoying.

Smooth is fast applies to pit stops too it seems. That was mind blowing. Clearly it took many, many hours of practice to achieve that level of optimization.

I don't disagree with most of what you said. I think so far the following jobs are safe from direct AI replacement, because it is much harder to replace manual laborers.

• Oil rig worker
• Plumber
• Construction worker
• Landscaper/gardener
• Telephone repair tech
• Mechanic
• Firefighter
• Surveyor
• Wildlife management officer
• Police

What companies won't realize until too late is that paying customers need jobs to pay for things. If AI causes unemployment to rise to some ungodly high, paying customers will become rare and companies will collapse in droves.

Appreciate the detailed response!

Indeed, intelligence is ...a difficult thing to define. It's also a fascinating area to ponder. The reason I asked was to get an idea of where your head is at with the claims you made.

Now, I admit I haven't done a lot with gpt-4 but your comments make me think it is worth the time to do so.

So you indicate gpt-4 can reason. My understanding is gpt-4 is an LLM, basically a large scale Markov chain, trained to respond with appropriate output based on input (questions).

On the one hand, my initial reaction is: no, it doesn't reason it just mimics or simulates human reasoning that came before it in text form.

On the other hand, if a program could perfectly simulate whatever processes are involved in reasoning by a human to the point that they're indistinguishable, is it not, in effect, reasoning? (I suppose this amounts to a sort of Turing Test but for reasoning exercises).

I don't know how gpt4 LLMs work yet. I imagine, being a Markov Model (specifically a Markov Chain), if the model is trained on human language then the underlying semantics are sort of implicitly captured in the statistical model. Like, simplistically, if many sentences reflect human knowledge that cars are vehicles and not animals then it's statistically unlikely for anyone to write about attributes and actions of animals when talking about cars. I assume the LLM is of such a scale that it permits this apparently emergent behavior.

I am skeptical about judgement calls. I would think some sensory input would be required. I guess we have to outline various types of judgement calls to really dig into this.

I am willing to accept that gpt-4 simulates the portions of the brain that deal with semantics and syntax both the receiving and transmitting abilities. And, maybe to some degree, knowledge and understanding.

I think "very similar to a complete brain" is an overstatement as the brain also does some amazing things with vision, hearing, proprioception, touch, among other things. Human brains can analyze situations and take initiative, analyze things and understand how they work and apply that to their repair, improvement, duplication, etc. We can understand and solve problems, and so on. In other words I don't think you're giving the brain anywhere near enough credit. We aren't just Q&A machines.

We also have to be careful of the human tendency to anthropomorphize.

I'm curious to look into vector databases and their applications here. Addition of what amounts to memory, or like extended context, sounds extremely interesting.

Interesting to ponder what the world would be like with AGI taking over the jobs of most knowledge workers, artists, and so on. (I wonder if someone could create a CEO replacement...)

What does it mean for a capitalist society with masses of people permanently unemployed? How does the economy work when nobody can afford to buy anything because they're unemployed? Does this create widespread poverty and collapse or a post-scarcity economy in some sectors?

Until robots mechanically evolve to Asimov's vision, at least, manual labor is safe. Truly being able to replace a human body with a robot is still a ways off due to lack of progress on several fronts.

And it saves us the indignity of being treated like criminals in our neighborhood grocery store. Curbside is fantastic in most cases.

That's because he has hooves (along with horns and a forked tail)

They look like cowboy boots to me. Which usually have a pretty good sized heel on them. The ones I've had tend to curl up some although his may be poorly maintained too.

https://cowboyhardware.com/cdn/shop/articles/how-not-to-wear-cowboy-boots-7-western-fashion-mistakes_1618x1079.jpg

Also, fuck that psychopathic fascist.

How do you define "intelligence" in this context?

Do you think gpt4 is self aware?

Do you believe this LLM tech has the ability to make judgement calls, say? Or understand meaning?

What has been your experience with the accuracy / correctness of the answers it has provided? Does it match claims that mistakes or "hallucinations" occur often?

A lot of unanswered questions about this situation for sure. Probably will remain that way.

Hydrazine (from Wikipedia)

Hydrazine is an inorganic compound with the chemical formula N2H4. It is a simple pnictogen hydride, and is a colourless flammable liquid with an ammonia-like odour. Hydrazine is highly toxic unless handled in solution as, for example, hydrazine hydrate (N2H4·xH2O).

Hydrazine is mainly used as a foaming agent in preparing polymer foams, but applications also include its uses as a precursor to polymerization catalysts, pharmaceuticals, and agrochemicals, as well as a long-term storable propellant for in-space spacecraft propulsion. Additionally, hydrazine is used in various rocket fuels and to prepare the gas precursors used in air bags. Hydrazine is used within both nuclear and conventional electrical power plant steam cycles as an oxygen scavenger to control concentrations of dissolved oxygen in an effort to reduce corrosion.

Those who knew him claimed he had committed to nonviolence.

Although apparently the ballistics report claims the bullet came from a gun Terán owned.

I'm inclined to believe the cops used excessive force since that's what they're regularly trained to do.

True and if he tried that while black he would probably be dead.

Seeking a return to an idealized mythological past...? That's so classic fascist.

Pff sure. How hard can it be? Few resistor thingies and some capaci-whatsists, and Arduino, done.

Given all the corruption a constitutional convention would be the final nail the coffin.

Maybe once we eradicate sexism and thus, mansplaining.

Linux mint ftw

It's the decade of the Linux desktop over here.