afraid_of_zombies @ afraid_of_zombies @lemmy.world

Hail the Omnissiah! Praise be to the machine-god.

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The part where you left out any viable path for any of the hypothetical solutions to be realized 🤷‍♂️ You of all people should know that a blueprint is worthless if there’s no process available to build what it describes.

Again. Not my job to handhold you. I build projects other people have the job of convincing the general public. Marketing is not engineering.

But I’ve gotta say it doesn’t inspire confidence if the people running those systems think that concerns about sustainability are something to have a group chuckle about.

You are the one who thought 6 decades was a reasonable number for moving fluid systems. Yes it is ridiculous. You can't get parts that work that way no matter how much money you have. These aren't items you can buy. I don't even know how it would even work. How many bushings and filters and gaskets that need to have the exact dimensions they have and you expect them to last six decades. Tell me how to do that. How do you make something of millimeter thickness that is also rugged enough? Fuck even like paint, you can't expect a paint job to last anywhere near that.

And even if you could build something like that I wouldn't want to go anywhere near it. I hate dealing with the electrical systems from the 80s let alone from the 60s. That would be a nightmare. No way I am sticking my face inside a panel that predates SCCR.

My partner and I are unironically taking the time to research subsistence farming and how to maintain very basic personal water collection and waste removal/reuse systems

Alright have fun with that. It won't be as inefficient or as safe but you are welcome to try.

Because as far as we can tell you’re in the 95%+ majority of people on this planet, which means hardly anyone is putting effort into solving these existential problems that we’re facing.

Literally this weekend answered an email about a battery recycling facility I am helping to design. But yeah your compost pile is so impressive to me.

I made a decision 8 years ago to go into waste and pollution reduction. I choose to be the change I wanted to see in the world. You grew an heirloom turnip, I wrote the code running on +100 scrubbers. As an environmental expert I am sure you know what a scrubber is and totally don't have to look at Wikipedia to know the difference between a hybrid/wet/dry types. As well as what blowoff, recirculation lines, mist eliminators, and reaction chambers are.

Problems which you have offered no viable solution to, despite your insistence otherwise.

Umm actually I did. Repeatedly. You just waved your hands around, pointed at the one sentence you thought you could attack, declared victory, then bragged about your little garden.

Damn crypto is so freaken awful. Not a single legit use for it that real money can't do better. No surprise that the people who defend it have to lie about facts and use name calling instead of arguments.

Oh did I mention 92% =/= 100%? I don't think I did.

92% = 100%

So then you didn’t “solve” the impossible problems.

I did. Let me know which part was confusing to you. Unless of course you want to choose to, yet again, latch on to one sentence as a gotcha.

end of human civilization as we know it.

Is that what we are doing? I thought I built recycling systems, sanitation systems, and pumping systems. I wasn't aware that helping make sure we don't die in our own feces+garbage and providing fresh water was going to be the downfall of civilization. Damn here I am thinking that this is one of the most important parts of civilization. Well I don't want to cause civilization to end. Tell you what, why not be the change you want to see in the world and stop flushing your toilet, stop using tap water, stop recycling anything, and don't set your garbage out.

Fine whatever deal with these "points"

• Energy: renewables, nuclear, carbon tax, incentives for companies to generate their own power
• Intellectual property theft: abolish copyright law. Whatever value it might (I said might) have served is gone now. It should sicken us all to the core that we are the one people in human history that cut ourselves off from our own culture. But yeah if you want to be like some angry dragon living on your horde of data go ahead and don't put it on the internet. It's a messed up way of going through life but if you really really don't want your furry porn copied this is how you can go about it.
• Non-consenual porn: I agree its at best in very poor taste and at worst harassment. Go ahead and throw the book at people who do it.

Fine you convinced me. Call a state constitutional thing. Watch how fast the new document outlaws abortion, makes the US an officially Christian nation, and shores up the electoral system such that no Democrat could ever win.

What you aren't looking at is that we can amend the document right now. Look at the very last purposed changes. End of birth naturalization and ban on gay marriage. You want that?

you haven’t laid out how to overcome the political and economic resistance to implementing any of this, and that’s where the biggest challenge is.

That isn't my job.

Although I think it’s naive to believe that nuclear power and renewable energy can allow us to keep consuming energy recklessly.

Misn showing me where I said that? Cause I am pretty freaken sure I mentioned a carbon tax and incentives for companies to generate their own power.

Renewable energy technology still puts a significant strain on the environment, in terms of mining rare-earth elements, pollution produced during manufacturing, and material waste from devices that have reached end of life.

More tech. Let me know when you have an actual challenge.

Nuclear energy is rife with controversy…

So are vaccines.

A plant can only be expected to operate for 40-60 years at which point it needs to be demolished and rebuilt, repeating the massive costs of material waste and construction all over again.

Are you being serious right now? I am in infrastructure and 40 years is well beyond the scope of anything I build. Get me a freaken Bible and I will swear on it, your waste system in your area can never ever ever last 4 decades. They are constantly having to rip it all apart and rebuild. 11 years is what I typically hope for. Find me a wet well that is 4 decades old, find me a pump, find me a screw conveyor, find me a metering pump, find me a shredder, find me the UPS/generator, find me a DCS, that lasts 40 years. I am pretty tempted to share your comment with the office tomorrow, so we can have a good laugh at it.

Now you compare that to nuclear. Where everything is overbuilt everything is accounted for. No one improvises. Stuff in nuclear plants outlasts everything else. I have worked on very non-critical systems for nuclear plants and had to follow the strictest rules of my career. It takes a certain level of insanity to specify what type of tape should be used on a bundle of wires.

Guys at nuclear plants are freaken artisans, unionized, paid the highest in the industry for a reason.

Got to love this site sometimes. No where else can I hear people arguing against highly trained people getting paid very well being evil and instead being told that everything was so freaken perfect during the dark ages.

Yes welcome to earth.

The US Dollar is not only backed by oil, but also American banking imperialism.

Keep your story straight next time.

from the fact that there’s cocaine on literally every single dollar bill.

Prove it.

think putting the brakes on “AI” is the right move right now.

Strong disagree. I won't accept any solution that step 1 is willful ignorance. You might be willing to stick your head in the sand because the world keeps moving, I am not.

With its energy usage, intellectual property theft, nonconsensual (and underage) porn generating…not to mention its use by the ownership class to take and commodify human expression away from humans and the capitalist motive to profit over any consideration for the ramifications for the working class…I

I always know when someone doesn't have a good argument when they give me a dozen bad ones. 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 .... Still equals 0. No matter how many times you do it.

It has to get more complicated, more edge cases have popped up and the process is more complicated.

Look basic example. I made an uncoiler and needed to add in a reverse override. Why? Because someone one time loaded it in wrong.

I am against the drug war and I think the cocaine thing was an urban legend. Also the US dollar is not backed up by oil.

I don't know what you want from me. I think it was pretty clear I was talking about crypto and badmouthing it. I won't touch the child pornography generative AI issue with a ten foot pole and Covid mask.

I have and don't see the relevance. The argument is that it is useless and then mentions a use case. If you want to say it's crap I won't argue the point but you can't say X and ~X.

Ok well "real" Buddhism who wrote the texts were very clear about the existence of Gods and the afterlife

The hype around AI is being used to justify mass layoffs,

Ban stock buybacks, abolish non-competes, fine the CEO and major stockholders personally for layoffs.

The foundation models consume a huge amount of energy. The more impressive you want it to be,

Nuclear power, renewables, carbon tax

As these tools are used more and more, they’re going to end up “learning” from content created by themselves instead of something that’s closer to a ground truth.

Not really our problem it is their problem.

Given the cost and nature of these tools, they’re likely to yield the most benefit to moneyed interests that want to automate the systems that maintain their power and wealth.

Restore the fairness doctrine limit the ability of groups like Sinclair.

Got any other impossible to solve issues let me know.

If we get killed by auto complete we deserve to die.

America: gun shops and manufacturers are shielded from lawsuits. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Also America: someone might learn how to make a bomb from an AI instead of learning it in the many many other places. Better sue.

Inconsistent. I can't sue because my kids school have to have a constant police presence.

A control panel for a loader that a factory worker should be able to use is as complex as a workflow on a computer can be. And that’s very explicitly accounting for the fact that loader’s or lift’s control panel doesn’t change every fucking day and the user remembers it, so computer UIs should be simpler than those of lifts and loaders!

I design control panels. I try to keep the workflow consistent not because I see value in it, but because some asshole decided that they didn't want to pay for retraining. Really I don't care, having to retool slightly every decade or so is pretty reasonable. Especially given that the tech is always changing.

I wonder why extradition is never even discussed. Hand over the scammers or get blocked from trade.