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  • Yup my parents showed me decades worth of libertarian propaganda without even realizing -- even in retrospect -- that is what it was.

    I can't really blame them because like you're saying we're experts at it.

  • If you look at what many consider to be the golden age

    Emphasis mine

    I didn't even say I consider it a golden age, because I don't.

    but it’s worse now than it was in the – what I’m now calling the first – gilded age.

    The gilded age was not in the 1950s. Also, gilded age doesn't mean golden age.

    I think we’ve hit the end of productive conversation between the two of us on this subject

    Agreed. Maybe next time read and understand some of the responses?

  • This is the first post you haven’t been praising the 1950s as a better time for workers.

    Isn't at all, but you're reading whatever you want into my posts. So keep on keeping on. 👍

    I get that you recently read some Marx or some shit, but corporations aren't just capitalism. They have charters. They were put into existence via law. It is possible to still be "under capitalism" and restructure the laws. Full on gay space communism isn't required to make any progress on any issue.

  • I don't understand what you're trying to prove here to be honest. Of course there's been shitty behavior all along. This is America. It's a country founded by slave owners that wanted to be free. (Carlin)

    My point is simple: corporations are a made-up concept and one of the main things people are supposed to get in the deal to allow them to exist in the first place is efficient allocation and utilization of human resources.

    It seems to me they are admitting that they cannot do that. In which case, the deal should be renegotiated.

  • You’ve got rose colored glasses on.

    Not really, I expect that I would've hated a great many things about the supposed golden age.

    This was only true if you were white, male, and a white collar worker.

    Of course, people didn't have anything approaching equal rights at the time. It could be argued that they never actually would up to and including today.

    It wasn't a utopia by any stretch, but in today's economy Intel will openly celebrate laying people off and having less employees. There has been a giant swing toward people generally thinking that "greed is good", and an exhaultation of sociopaths.

    The wealth distribution wasn't perfect, great, utopian, or even good during the entire history of the US, but it's worse now than it was in the -- what I'm now calling the first -- gilded age.