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  • From the article:

    Thanks for the hat tip.

    which will likely result in pennies on the dollar.

    Understand that this is the law right now. But laws can be changed. This absolutely should not be legal. These hardworking folks should not have to settle for "pennies on the dollar" when mgmt can still afford to pay out $3 mil of retention bonuses.

  • I get that these are retention bonuses and such.

    I.e. the folks keeping their jobs get more money, while the folks losing their jobs get nothing.

    Wth? How is it even legal to let someone go without paying severance? When I was let go, I had to be paid my severance (which was considerable) because that's the law in Ontario.

  • It’s exactly what these idiots want so they should just move.

    It's not like I disagree with you on this, but... who says they can? How would they do it? It sounds to me like you're suggesting they just pack a trailer, drive south, overstay and live as undocumented migrants.

    There'd be a certain poetic justice in that, to be sure, but anyone with two brain cells would be able to understand why living in Canada with full citizenship is better.

    I thought by “harder to move” you meant ... like they’re denying people to immigrate there.

    Yes! That's exactly what I meant. These folks can't just waltz down into the US of A and expect to stay forever. They have to comply with the existing immigration programs, which rather ironically are harder to comply with under the current administration in the US. Heck, even visiting or working in the US is getting harder.

    Granted my above references were more towards the latter, rather than with immigrating per se. We're only a few months in to this term, so we haven't had time to accumulate the data to see trends yet. But in his first term, the number of green cards that got issued by the US was cut down sharply, https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration or see https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-restrictions-legal-immigration-second-term-rcna151994 if you want a less biased and more neutral source.

    You think they’ll treat us better once we become the 51st state?

    Oh, heck no. I can't find it now but I recall one of the administration officials saying that Canada wouldn't even be a state, it'd be treated like Puerto Rico (a territory with no voting rights).

    Basically, we've got to be prepared to defend this country to the death.

    They don’t even treat their current 50 states well.

    Yes, I know - I only recently escaped myself from that.

    there was an administrative issue

    Depends on how one defines "administrative" I suppose, but the term is not inaccurate. You could also categorize it as a political issue, as well as a legal issue.

    That’s not being fair at all.

    Edit: Enjoy your upvote!

    Now, there's a huge irony here. These folks like the guy currently running the show down south, even as he makes it harder for them to (legally) join him and his country.

  • I imagine a "you can apply to be unbanned after April 28" could suffice. Almost certainly these folks (or bots?) will just disappear after the date and not bother to apply.

    Not saying that we should do this - just that after April 28 matters less because most of the bad actors will almost certainly abandon their accounts after the election.

  • To be fair, recent events like https://lemmy.ca/post/41181182 and https://lemmy.ca/post/41102961 or https://lemmy.ca/post/41065802 or https://lemmy.ca/post/41091031 suggest it'd be harder for them to move over to the US now than it used to be. At least as Canadians.

    Most likely, the only realistic option they have for moving to the US would be to attract someone and marry

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    The only realistic option for them is for Canada join the US as a single country. Which is still wildly unrealistic. But it's all they have, sad as it is.

    That being said, if a future option opens up - say from a new treaty provides an option where they irreversibly renounce being Canadian in return for getting US citizenship - I wouldn't necessarily say no to that.

  • It seems that it's actually quite difficult to get qualifying experience if one does software, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11220591 (since the experience has to be obtained under a P.Eng and it has to fit the safeguarding of life, health, etc criteria (so the work to develop a new gaming app likely isn't going to count).

    This is probably why so few folks in software actually have P.Eng as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25826520 (regardless of if they use a title with Engineer in it or not).

  • The answer is that it depends on Province.

    It seems that Quebec is particularly strict here, with Microsoft losing a battle to use the term "Engineers" over two decades ago, https://www.canadianconsultingengineer.com/quebec-order-of-engineers-wins-legal-battle-with-microsoft/

    Similarly, it seems there was a lot of activity a couple of years ago in Alberta to protect the term as per https://edmonton.taproot.news/news/2022/10/17/tech-leaders-seek-easing-of-rules-around-software-engineer-designation - with the result that the law is being changed to explicitly exempt "software engineer" from protection as per https://globalnews.ca/news/10084623/engineers-canada-urges-alberta-to-reconsider-change-to-rules-around-engineer-title/

    In Ontario specifically - which is the most populated province of Canada - my layman's reading of https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90p28 12 (1),

    When licences or certificates required

    Licensing requirement

    No person shall engage in the practice of professional engineering or hold himself, herself or itself out as engaging in the practice of professional engineering unless the person is the holder of a licence, a temporary licence, a provisional licence or a limited licence.

    Similarly, looking at https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/s10016 5(1)

    “practice of professional engineering” means any act of planning, designing, composing, evaluating, advising, reporting, directing or supervising that requires the application of engineering principles and concerns the safeguarding of life, health, property, economic interests, the public welfare or the environment, or the managing of any such act; (“exercice de la profession d’ingénieur”)

    And from https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illegal-practice/report-unlicensed-individuals-or-companies-2#software

    where use of the software impacts the health, safety or property of its users. PEO considers non-licensed use of “Software Engineer” to be a violation of our Act.

    But most software development is not, for example, directly related to health & safety.

    Basically in Ontario it seems "professional engineer" is the main regulated term, and "engineer" is only restricted in a subset of limited cases. (Note that this might be a relatively recent change though - the Professional Engineers Act is dated to 1990, but the Open for Business Act from 2010 made a number of changes to it. And it's specific to just Ontario.)

    Edit: Now it seems that the Ontario branch of Engineers Canada, Professional Engineers Ontario, isn't quite happy with this state of affairs. They make their case here, https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illegal-practice/report-unlicensed-individuals-or-companies in the "Software engineering and misleading certifications" section near the bottom:

    PEO has taken action against the use of the term "engineer" by several software companies. PEO negotiated with Banyan Systems to revise its training materials to replace the term "Certified Banyan Engineer" with "CBE". PEO also requested that Microsoft Canada Inc., replace the terms "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer" and "Microsoft Certified Professional Systems Engineer" with alternate terms that do not use the word "engineer", to avoid violating the Professional Engineers Act and trademark legislation.

    On July 25, 2002 Microsoft Canada announced that they will continue to use the term 'engineer' as part of the Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) designation.

    The rest of the page is just about how to report misuse of the "professional engineer" term, e.g.

    use the title "professional engineer" or an abbreviation or variation as an occupational designation

    It's quite telling then that the vast majority of jobs in Canada with the title "Network Engineer" are for companies based in Ontario, at least looking at https://ca.indeed.com/q-network-engineer-jobs.html?vjk=4d0293c813a90300

    There are other cases of courts declaring engineering to be unprotected, see for example https://www.smartbiggar.ca/insights/publication/canadian-council-of-professional-engineers-fails-to-prevent-registration-of-engineering-mark

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  • My understanding is no - but a long term suspension might be better anyways, since the effect seems to be that the member state is still forced to comply with EU rules without getting any of the benefits like voting.

    That being said, I wonder if they could suspend Hungary, then have the rest vote and approve an amendment to allow expulsion - which would pass unamiously since Hungary can't vote against it as it's suspended, and then they expel Hungary under the new amendment...?

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  • Absolutely, agreed. The issue here is that Canada may not qualify, as we're North American rather than European. (While it's true that we're right next to Greenland and the French territory of Saint Pierre and Miquelon, neither territory is part of the EU but rather both are considers "overseas" territories of EU members, so being next to them doesn't help extend the definition of "European".)

    Also see https://www.europarl.europa.eu/enlargement/briefings/23a2/_en.htm - Morocco is just below Spain and Portugal as you can see on this map, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco#/media/File:Morocco(orthographicprojection,WSclaimed).svg - but it was rejected membership in the European Communities. Sadly, based on geographical criteria alone, the case for Canada being "European" is much weaker than Morocco or Turkey.

    Back in the day, I had high hopes that the CPTPP would evolve into something similar to the EU with its own version of Schengen.

  • That’s exactly the kind of hedging their bets centrist bull

    Clarification required. What bets are being hedged here, regarding "there isn't any point in bilateral talks, but let's say we'll do it if he shuts up about that thing that he can't stop talking about" ? I don't see a bet and I don't see a hedge.

    We already know they are insincere and there won’t be negotiations because even an agreement would have no value.

    Yup, covered in "there isn't any point in bilateral talks" above.

    rather than putting red lines he’s obviously going to cross

    Not seeing that any such "red lines" have been put in. The closest is the demand that you-know-who stop talking about you-know-what, but ... a red line is "don't do yak yak, if you do that you cross a red line and we will respond by blah blah" and in this case orange voldemort has already done yak yak and there's no blah blah response given.

    that will just make Canada lose face for nothing.

    You've got a point here. But the moment that 51st state started to get mentioned, the face was lost. So in this specific category, is there really anything left to lose?

    Give the Orange douche a bloody nose right now

    Agreed! I'd argue we're already starting to do that (e.g. Doug Ford's electric surcharge threat).