BabyWah @ Zippit @lemmy.world

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Oh shut up with your insinuations. If a guy with a gun tells you to treat someone, you do it. As if Palestinians have gotten another choice by Israeli governance. You act as if these people were free before the attacks lol. As if they were living in the land of milk and honey, as if their opinions mattered...

NO. It wasn't the IDF that saved them. They were so tone-deaf that when the doctors said premature babies were dying because of lack of fuel to generate the incubators, they brought over some incubators knowing there was no electricity to use them... Plain Evil and just another PR stunt for the IDF.

** The evacuation was organized by the World Health Organization and the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. **

*Just a day earlier, a joint United Nations humanitarian assessment team, led by the WHO, entered Al-Shifa to see first-hand the dire circumstances of the facility, the groups said.

They found piles of medical and solid waste filling the crowded corridors of Gaza's largest hospital, according to the WHO. The team saw a mass grave by the hospital's entrance and was told at least 80 bodies were lying there, the WHO said.

This team's trip only lasted an hour and was "deconflicted" with Israel's military to ensure safe passage, the group said.

In that time, they found that several patients have died in the previous two to three days due to medical services shutting down in the facility, according to the WHO. And now there are just 25 health workers for the 291 remaining patients. The premature babies were considered to be in "extremely critical condition," the WHO said.*

Here's the full link: https://www.npr.org/2023/11/19/1214024420/gaza-israel-al-shifa-hospital-evacuation

So NO, the IDF didn't do anything for a single patient in that hospital. But, you know, whatever makes you sleep at night.

I hope his idea is not to just plop the two communities together, but also integrate them. I listened to a podcast about a Muslim woman who married a Gazan Palestinian and went to live there eventually. She said they were very different from what she was used to. She worked in healthcare, had difficulty understanding their accent and just fitting in. Those people were under an embargo for years, so that explains the stagnation of everything.

Her grandmother was Palestinians, but I can't remember if she grew up in the West Bank or Saudi Arabia.

See me talking like it will ever happen...

Really, it's turning into a meme. You've been there for 5 days, have bulldozers at your service? Just give me that Daniels job, I could have made up better propaganda by now. Just effing dig a tunnel and proceed to lie again to the press and 'present' your evidence lol.

They're not even trying to justify shit at this point, too busy killing civilians and making a parking lot.

By trading them in for Palestinian kids and women rotting away in Israeli jails.

Also, reform the judiciary branch so Palestinians aren't judged by 1 Israeli judge with a conviction rate of 98%. Maybe a council of three judges: Israeli, Palestinian and Christian. And throw an atheist in there too.

Counteroffensive Israel fucked up that plan the minute they also went bloodlust and revenge massacre. It's too late now with so many killed. You can expect a second Hamas with a different name to attack Israel within 15/20ish years max. Unless you change.

Normally cooler heads should have prevailed but they're stuck with Netanyahu.

You should have enforced your borders, so nothing gets in. At the same time, you should have tightened and upped diplomatic relations with everyone else in the region instead of alienating and threatening them. Chances were, they would have helped you get the Hamas military wing labeled as terrorists in the region and made no place safe for them. No one wants to see dead civilians. (Granted this doesn't count for Hezbollah).

Negotiating a deal for the hostage exchanges and knowing Hamas, it would have taken months or years maybe, but most of them would have made it out alive. And this will give you the time you'll need.

Use your intelligence services to get every name and face of the Hamas that killed civilians.Once your list is complete, then you start hunting them down. Just like the Mossad did with ex-nazi's. No matter how long it takes.

Make a long-term plan to get the Palestinians not on your side really, but on their OWN side. Free from Israel AND Hamas. Give them a better life, let them prosper, live their lives, raise their kids and grow old. You don't want them and they don't want you, so a 2 state is the only solution. With each country having its own governance.

Once people value their lives and families and have something to live for, they won't be sucked into this rage, hate and hopelessness and join something that'll be just another Hamas.

Normal people don't join terrorists/freedom fighter causes, desperate people do.

He took a page from the Belgian elections. Every time there are roadworks everywhere, I know next year is an election year.

I thought fentanyl WAS the worst drugs? No drug user, so what's worse than that?

Let's be real, It's not a war anymore, it's a massacre.

Yes, but I meant next year. Because it's like I'm in 2016 again. Everybody thinks Hillary is going to win and NO WAY anyone would vote for this loser. But with Biden this time.

Maybe AFTER there is legitimate proof provided, verified by independent outside sources instead of just 'IDF says.' Nothing they say after the last month of indiscriminate killings will be believed. They're met with the same kind of criticism and disdain the Hamas military brigades get.

Even then, patients and civilians still have the right to be evacuated in a humane way and timespan.

Yes, besides living in a rural area with a shitty library that has only books online I read in middle school, I have agorophobia. So making the trek there isn't that simple.

Even the biggest university library's online books are not up to date. They take years to get translated, so instead of waiting for that (since I'm not sure whether I'll even be alive by then) I just read books in their original language as soon as they come out.

And stop making fun of disabled people.

I'm an avid reader. Books from authors I like here tend to take months to years to get translated and into a library. I read everything in English now because of that.

Key point here is 'produce'.

Maybe the Palestinians should get the chance to show a 45min video of their bodies in the US Congress or House.... Oh no, THAT right is only for the Israeli government.

*Nov 19 (Reuters) - A humanitarian assessment team visited Al Shifa Hospital in northern Gaza and saw signs of shelling and gunfire in what was described as a "death zone," the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Sunday.

The WHO-led team, which included public health experts, logistics officers and security staff from various U.N. departments, was able to spend only an hour inside the hospital on Saturday due to security concerns, WHO said in a statement.

The team described the hospital as a "death zone" and said the situation was "desperate," with the hospital basically not functioning as a medical facility due to scarcity of clean water, fuel, medicine and other essentials.

"Signs of shelling and gunfire were evident. The team saw a mass grave at the entrance of the hospital and were told more than 80 people were buried there," the WHO statement said.

The hallways and hospital grounds were filled with medical and solid waste, and patients and health staff expressed fear for their health and safety, it said. There were 25 health workers and 291 patients, including 32 babies in critical condition, remaining in Al Shifa, WHO said.*

"WHO and partners are urgently developing plans for the immediate evacuation of the remaining patients, staff and their families," it said.

They sue newspapers and media that say anything unfavourable about them. That's why BBC and other outlets are being super careful what and how they word shit.

A part of that 14 billion is going to propaganda and lawyers to sway public opinion.

Also, telecoms have been down since last Wednesday. I'm telling you, IDF has bulldozers and no one independent to verify what they're really doing or 'finding' there. I wouldn't put it past them to dig the tunnels themselves. And they'd still manage to fuck up.

Perception is key, they've built this image of being ultra smart and tech savvy etc... Nope, all gone now.

Just one point of view: I'm too poor to even buy food, but pirating books keeps me informed about current affairs and shit. It also enables me to stay alive because I still have access to my favourite authors, which makes me so happy and try to stay alive for one more release date.

Full disclosure: I've gone from a very good job to debilitating disability over 10 years in Europe. Also, before this, I bought hardback books of everything I liked. I'll do this again as soon as I can afford it. I'll always support authors as much as I can.

Please just vote this buffoon out. I beg of you as a European. Please vote him out and make him irrelevant in every way possible. Just stop this madness.

Perfect recap.