I'll take that as a yes. I mean, the rest of the world manages to give free health care to citizens without having to shoot each other but I guess americans have american solutions to their american problems...
So we agree on that. It's my main point, I'm not defending CEOs, I'm just not going to cheer for some random street execution. The fact that the video of this murder is being shared and celebrate that much really makes me inconfortable. Seems to me like a very american solution to a very american problem. I wouldnt have thought people here would be that much pro-violence. People can ball me a "lib" or a centrist as much as they want, I'm not celebrating arbitrary murder nor watching that video.
Yes, but.... It's seems most people WANT to live in a capitalist system. It's not my first choice either, but IMO shooting CEOs will just bring more repression and give an authoritarian government a sens of legitimacy,
You guys are all really smart and interesting, seriously, but I'm still not convince one can just decide to kill a CEO because he considers them to be part of the bourgeoisie. My original question, is who gets to decided where to draw the line.
My comment was going back to the original question: if it's ok to kill this CEO, who decided who else it's ok to kill.
My problem is that, while I fully agree that capitalism is the principal cause of injustice in the modern world, taking justice into one's own hands through violence will only lead to more violence. The day citizens as a whole are ready for a real social revolution, I might re-evaluate my position on violence, but the majority of US voters have just elected, again, Epstein's closest friend as president so I doubt that what they want is a way out of capitalism.
USA is pretty much the most capitalist country in the world so that's a lot of people that might die.
But again, who gets to decide who will die (or be rehabilitated)? Cowbee?
My problem with this is, who gets to decide where bourgeoisie start and ends. Because for the majority of the world, the average American is a selfish bourgeois with a big house and two cars, who thinks oppression is when the gas price rise. Kill all the bourgeois fine, but who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
edit: jeez americans, we dont have to agree on everything and downvote to hell just because someone says something we dont like. Maybe in the US shooting people you dont like seems like a resonable solution, but I'm sorry it's not that simple in the rest of the world.
Well if you guys are ready for a social revolution, I will be happy to support it (I'm not a US citizen).
Unfortunately I've seen too much stupidity not to be cynical about the chance of it happening.
So the election system is broken and anti-democratic? Does that mean the jan 6 rioters where right to attack the capitol? US is going to shit, and Americans citizens are responsible for it. 77 millions voted for Epstein's closets friend, twice, they know exactly what they were getting.
They weren’t personally responsible for the system they perpetrated. But we hung them anyway.
A couple of questions for you:
Will you be shooting every capitalist in the US?
Is an Amazon worker "perpetuating the system"?
Is an Amazon consumer is?
Who will draw the line between the victim of the system and the responsible for it, you?
And no, we didn't just hung every German who followed orders.
Again, I'm deeply anti-capitalist. But Americans choose this system over and over, of course the shit will hit the fan, I just don't believe shooting CEOs will fix things, unfortunately.
But the millions (probably closer to tens or hundreds of thousands) of people who want the system to be like this are outnumbered by the people who have to suffer in it,
77 millions Americans voted for your president knowing exactly who he is :a liar, pedo, rapist, felon, with absolutely no plan for healthcare. Not only do they want the system to be the way it is, they wanted it to be even more unfair, even the people who suffer for it are brainwashed.
I wish you guys a civil war, if that's what you want, but I doubt it will ever come.
