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  • It's different but the same. We used to get hit by the conservative bury brigades. Now, we get people actually trying to steer the narrative with somewhat thoughtful bad faith arguments.

    It's far more insidious now, and takes vigilance to shut down.

  • Yeah, and imagine where we'd be today if people had just sucked it up and voted for Hillary in 2016. Just the SCOTUS alone.

    But sure, it's the fault of the people warning you how bad it would be to let Trump win, because they couldn't make voting for Hillary feel good.

  • Pulling support from Isreal isn't nearly as popular as someone who is in the progressive / lemmy bubble would think. And besides public opinion, Isreal has a very strong lobby. Also, while there are more vocal American Jews standing against Isreal now, they're far from united against Isreal.

    I know it seems like it's a clear win because of the echo chamber in here, but it could cost them not only the presidential election, but down ballot as well, if they go against Isreal. And I've said it before, chasing the Leftist vote is an exercise in futility. They will just move goalposts, and you may very well lose more voters appeasing them than you gain. And the votes you do gain will be fickle.

    It sucks to say, but their strategy is solid. And we need to celebrate the small wins to encourage their slow break from unconditional support.

    Edit:

    Lemmy as a whole - "Political polls are very unreliable and next to useless"

    ITT: "A specific poll agrees with my opinion, and thus should be treated as the absolute truth"

    Uh huh. Re: echo chambers

  • Yes, that was the problem I was implying. Most of these insurrectionists have gotten slaps on the wrist because they're good ole boys. A few months for being caught in the capitol building. A few years for being caught assaulting police. What was it, 17 years or so for being the leader of proudboys that organized the violent plot?

    I know some of those are a bit off, but the point I made was that it's likely this guy will get real consequences because of his appearance, while all these other pieces of shit got very little time for their actions.

  • And I know this isn't remotely possible given how entrenched red states are, but if the Dems got a super majority, I fully expect we'd get ranked choice voting, and for the Dem party to split. Progressives and moderates don't particularly want to be in the same party, but it is a necessity until the racist fascist right (and their judges, etc) can be removed. And that requires a super majority.

    I seriously had a glimmer of hope that this would be the course correction after Jan 6th, but I quickly discovered how foolish I was to think the Right, and their voters, actually have a line to cross.

    Edit - that was an autocorrect error, but still rather accurate...

  • I like your optimism, but there's no way in hell we're flipping 16 senators if Jan 6th didn't even stop the GOP from gaining seats in congress.

    On Jan 6th, I thought that we were finally going to get the GOP to collapse and rebuild from scratch. We literally had congressmen narrowly escape a linching from a violent mob literally smearing shit on the walls of one of our highest institutions.

    And the GOP just steamed along like nothing happened. And are still getting elected to office. And expelled the few Republicans that spoke up. And their base love them for it.

    So no, there's no path to removing these overtly corrupt SCOTUS judges. Zero. The best we can hope for is Dems getting the majority in congress and achieving a meaningless impeachment that's nothing but show.