🐱TheCat @ WheeGeetheCat @sh.itjust.works

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Then please point to the original aggression

and you learned nothing. And you refused to engage with or acknowledge any information that complicates your opinion that Palestine = innocent victim. You won't admit out loud that Palestinians refused to live in peace with Israel, just as Israel has refused to live in peace with Palestine.

I wonder which of us is arriving at an informed worldview, and which of us is DunningKrugering around the internet name-calling.

When do you start the timeline though? The Palestine / Israel conflict has been going for 100 years right? Are you comfy saying Israel is the original aggressor?

Full disclosure: I dislike all fundamentalist religious societies. I don't believe in holy land, and I think people on both sides are reaping what they've sown by insisting they are gods chosen people. So I'm not defending Israel, but I'm not defending Palestine (and especially Hamas) either.

I heard an Israeli coworker claim that the IDF is the worlds most moral army. With blind-belief like that, they are gonna commit some crazy atrocities.

Fuck Hamas, Fuck Israel, and fuck everyone who believes they should have power. Are we better now?

Your source mentions internal patriarchal control on the same level as the Israeli occupation. Almost like you just ignore evidence that yea, Sunni Muslim populations who welcome Shar'ia law don't provide good lives for women by definition.

You also ignored my question about what Hamas would do to Israel if they had more weapons / power.

You're the one confusing Palestine and Hamas. Israel is attacking the Gaza strip which is run by Hamas.

I think calling it a socioeconomic war strips away all the context of the last 100ish years. These groups are fighting over who gets Jerusalem, because they believe it's holy. The socioeconomic conditions in Palestine are the result of a long holy war that they are losing. Tell me I'm wrong.

They used to just say they were in favor of a Jewish state. Now that they have it, they say they need more Palestinian land so they take more land and say that when they do it, it's holy.

Fuck zionists

steps down with a golden parachute, all the richer.

We need real consequences for greed that is ruining everyone's lives.

Bro saying Hamas doesn't have a 'perfect track record' is the biggest understatement. They push towards fundamentalism every chance they get and rose to power through violence.

Seriously, the news prints the headline as if the rest of the article doesn't make it really clear this is a claim from nowhere.

I wear clothes that show my arms and legs below the knee, and I like to be able to go outside at night. Audacious I know, for me to want the same freedoms as men. Do you need sources for the fact that I can't do this in Palestine? Do you need sources for the fact that when Palestine started to see more beach tourism, HAMAS swooped in to crackdown on women on the beach?

Im not silly enough to think that if these abrahamic religions spread that I will be spared.

You're right. Palestine are victims now. If Israel stopped being funded by the west, Israel would be the victims next. You disagree?

Has your country been attacked / been in any wars?

I assure you no one is trying to do 'proportional' damage. Thats not how anything works. Someone attacks you, you try to crush them.

All the same I wish the US would stop subsidizing Israel because they suck too. They might not do so well against Palestine then.

Same for Israel ... establishing a peaceful secular democracy? I agree. And I wish the US would stop subsidizing their madness, but our religious fundamentalists (who have too much power) think they need their religious fundamentalists to be located in Israel for 'god' to return to earth.

Religion is a blight on the planet.

Ironically, Finland uses an election system that was once proposed by Thomas Jefferson, 'American Founding Father' - the 'Dhondt method' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Hondt_method. (it was also independently re-invented by D'Hondt in Belgium)

I would think Americans may want to emulate that

Well, Israel was actively destroying culture as well. We've all seen the videos of Palestinians being evicted from their homes by Israeli military /police.

In fact Id say thats way worse than words on paper. Systemic actions to destroy

I agree with you, but I dont agree that they wouldn't destroy Israel given the power.

Theyre both exterminating each other, and the one with the most power is doing better at it. If Palestine suddenly had more power, they would be doing better at it. HAMAS has as much chance of establishing a peaceful secular democracy as ISIS

Ah, sorry for assuming. Although it sounds like England uses FPTP as well in some elections if you're from there. I assume thats why we got Boris and Trump: idiot twins.