🐱TheCat @ WheeGeetheCat @sh.itjust.works

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I like that he's being very blatant about it. If you haven't already adjusted the X social network into the same column as Truth Social in your brain, you should

"Although whale song is nothing like human language, I wouldn’t be surprised if some marine mammals have the ability to communicate in a complex way.

Are you the same person who claimed they didn't have syntax at all or someone different? Why claim that when they don't have syntax, and then move goalposts to bits of information?

https://www.uw360.asia/the-difference-between-human-and-cetacean-brains/ Are you aware cetaceans have more lobes in their brain than humans ?

This extra lobe of tissue has something to do with processing emotions, but also something to do with thinking that we humans just don’t have.

This unique evolution of the cetacean’s entire limbic system, which is a combination of multiple structures in the brain that deal with emotions and the formation of memories, suggests that cetaceans have the ability to process more complex thoughts and emotions than humans. Since the system is so large in cetaceans, and the unique paralimbic lobe merges with the cortex, it is believed that the lobe may create a mixture of both emotional and cognitive thinking.

Humans are always comparing animals TO OURSELVES and when they fall short we consider ourselves better, but we don't do the comparison the other way and subtract points from ourselves when we fail against animals.

I think this is my overall point and why our estimation of ourselves and other life on earth is so flawed.

Yeah I think I might also have a problem with the lack of understanding on evolution. You are not more evolved than other species.

Evolution does not have a peak and it a constantly ongoing process. You can say that some things are more successful than others but you need a metric to measure by, there is no overall 'peak evolved' thing and in fact that statement makes no sense.

Other animals on earth make up more biomass. Other animals on earth have lived longer than humans. Other animals on earth have more complex DNA. Other animals on earth have bigger bodies. Other animals on earth have bigger brains.

We simply choose to look at tool use and ability to terraform because we are good at those things

I might agree we are 'intelligent without being wise' but then I would say that THAT should be taught.

Currently we function as the equivalent of the neighborhood mad scientist. Obsessed with their own ideas but actively destroying everything and everyone including themselves. Smart not wise.

This is the double standard I have a problem with;

Human has ability = we attribute it to intelligence.

Animal has ability = we attribute it to their physiological form.

Human's ability to use intelligence is also attributable to our evolved survival strategy ie our physiological form. Why is using our brains proof of skilled intelligence but an animal using their nose ISN'T? To me you have reduced intelligence to a reductive measurement that is biased towards humans.

Animals derive knowledge about the world from their sense. That other animals can smell disease or sense magnetic forces and we CANT should humble us, but we see it as some meaningless outdated ability we have grown past while worshiping every tool we create.

Other animals pass down cultural knowledge

Yeah this is the attitude I think is harmful. You essentially have no evidence of your claims but you just strongly feel superior to other species.

'Animal communication is very basic compared to ours' is just a blatantly false statement. We know there are named individuals, dialect, syntaxes in other species. I think some humans are just ignorant of these things, which is the opposite of intelligence

Also none of you seem to consider the extra communication abilities many animals possess around scent a mark AGAINST humans. We may use the most complex vocal language to compensate for our total lack of smell communication

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060322175201.htm

We have known for quite some time that whales have language with syntax, in fact we now know they have regional dialects as well

You are proving my point this should be taught in school more, here you are under the impression humans are unique in this regard

Other animals have language

Edit: when I tried to research the nueroplasticity claim I didn't see the answer you're giving. I saw sources claiming many animals have this and that rats have shown more nueroplasticity than humans

I don’t see any other animal making monuments and going to space

But these are weird ( and biased) ways to measure intelligence. I could also say I don't see other species besides Cephalopods with a body-wide distributed brain network that can reform it's entire body to mimic in a few seconds, not to mention regularly escape from entirely alien containment measures.

Even the mention of 'doing things we see in sci-fi' is weirdly human centric. Like dinosaurs lived on the earth for billions of years. How bout we accomplish that? There was a book that explored this idea that species are obsessed with themselves by Dan Quinn called 'Ishmael'. The whole book isn't really about that theme but it's got an allegory about jellyfish that explores it.

edit: this is getting downvotes so let me ask another way:

• if 'accomplishing the things we see in sci fi' (like say, going to Mars) results in the extinction of the human species shortly after, do you think the remaining species on the planet will remember humans as 'smart' or 'obsessed with vehicles/exploration to the point of self-destruction'? If you could float above the remains of the civilization and make a judgement, would you think it was worth it?

I mostly agree with you except that I'll say the people are not a monolith. Many people still help others. Its the systems which treat you like shit. Attack them, not others.

such propaganda.

edit: oh are we doing wrong/opposite answers? mb

What are the specific DVD discs you're using?

If it's got any type of rewriteable ability, it likely won't play in a DVD player.

If I remember I had the best luck with DVD-R discs ( NOT DVD+R ) but it has to do with the dvd burner and the final dvd player they end up in. Might be worth trying both.

edit: just read your comment that it previously worked but stopped working? In that case Id agree that maybe your DVD burner needs a replace

You heard the men. If we want a billionaire cage match we're going to have to get off our asses and lock them in the cage ourselves.

Same old lie. Trump started demanding money printing in early 2019 to juice the economy for an election year, because he knows republicans are simple and don't understand that policy decisions take time to take effect. You had inflation coming your way before COVID.

President Donald Trump, in his most brazen attack yet on the Federal Reserve, called for the central bank on Tuesday to cut interest rates by 1 percentage point and to implement more money-printing quantitative easing.

Everyone I heard who wanted to vote for Trump was saying 'my bank account has never looker better, screw inflation!'

Well, fucking eat it you idiots.

People are already rewriting history.

Trump was in money printing mode all the way back in early 2019, heres one of many articles from APRIL of that year https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/30/trump-calls-on-fed-to-cut-rates-by-1percent-and-urges-more-quantitative-easing.html

I'll remind you all that Trump is always projecting, and he's previously accused the FED of keeping rates low to help obama . So I find his motivations clear for asking the fed to drop interest rates in 2019 before his upcoming election.

Trump and the GOP had to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing any additional COVID relief, it was nothing compared to the amount of money given in tax cuts to the rich FOREVER, and the PPP money went to the top 1/5 of households, people who were already rich

I watched the OG and brotherhood. Brotherhood is a different show completely. Not as 'slice of life' / chill as the OG, a lot more big plot turns though because its in step with the manga.

Bill Gates has a lot of you fooled. https://www.democracynow.org/2007/1/9/report_gates_foundation_causing_harm_with

L.A. Times investigation reveals the Gates Foundation’s humanitarian concerns are not reflected in how it invests its money. In the Niger Delta, where the foundation funds programs to fight polio and measles, the foundation has also invested more than $400 million in companies like Royal Dutch Shell, ExxonMobil and Chevron. These oil firms have been responsible for much of the pollution many blame for respiratory problems and other afflictions among the local population.

The Gates Foundation also has investments in 69 of the worst polluting companies in the U.S. and Canada, including Dow Chemical. It holds stakes in drug companies whose drugs cost far beyond what most AIDS patients around the world can afford. Other companies in the foundation’s portfolio have been accused of transgressions including forcing thousands of people to lose their homes, supporting child labor, defrauding and neglecting patients in need of medical care.

He was still doing it in 2015 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/mar/19/gates-foundation-has-14bn-in-fossil-fuels-investments-guardian-analysis

He said again in 2019 he won't divest from fossil fuels https://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/5672.htm

People who think Gates is doing good with his wealth basically don't understand that a lot of the problems we are facing are caused by wealth inequality in the first place. Some of you are watching 6 monkeys hoard all the bananas and then when they throw you 1 you love them for it?

Edit: Theres a french journalist who wrote a whole book about the gates scam. Here an interview on youtube with him https://youtu.be/Dqzt6yAmdDE?t=246. Also fixed formatting and missing link

how do people still have this much faith in the tools humans build after seeing the climate change caused by the industrial revolution.

is that what people used stackoverflow for? I google cheatsheets for simple syntax reminders.

What I found stack overflow useful for was 'I have this random bug in this random browser / os combo - here's what hasn't worked, has anyone dealt with it?' - and then hopefully we can all share the misery of this bug until someone figures out the source.

Not sure where to go for that type of thing anymore.