Wes4Humanity @ Wes4Humanity @lemm.ee

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They didn't show up for him either.

To be fair, they didn't show up for him either.

I'm sure we could break it down by state... But the missing voters is THE thing that swung this election. Figuring out the true reason those people sat this one out should be everyone's top priority.

Millions of people did vote for Bernie, and he absolutely would have won the general... Clinton and her minions rigged the primary. The right doesn't care about policy, but the left, especially the moral "Bernie" left absolutely care about policy. The sexists who can't bring themselves vote for a woman are right-wing voters and always have been. The idea that the left is filled with blatant sexists is delusional.

Have you seen a demographics poll of the 7 million Biden voters who stayed home? I've been looking. If you found one can you share it please? Thanks

8.6% of Biden voters didn't show up for Kamala. That's hardly "most"... In fact it seems like a pretty reasonable percent of the left who might actually care more about the morality of their vote than any other concern. Those are the people we're talking about.

We're not talking about the people who DID vote. It's the people who didn't vote who mattered in this election. Specifically the ones who voted last time but not this time. And many of the ones who didn't vote, made it clear they COULDN'T bring themselves to vote for genocide, and being given no option to not vote for genocide, their only choice was to sit it out. It was a moral decision.

Fun fact, the DNC started all of these things in 2016 when they did them all to Bernie and his supporters. The RNC simply learned from their playbook.

But I can agree, some of the people who didn't vote may have been influenced by it being harder to vote this time.

I'm sorry, but the idea that 10 million people on the left chose not to vote for someone just because she's a woman is ridiculous. People who think like that are Republicans and would never have voted blue no matter what.

I'm pretty sure the DNCs entire strategy was making sure people knew they were better than Trump. But okay, I'll give you that one of their failings was not leaning into all the horrible things Trump did or allowed.

Once again, they are only looking at the people who DID vote... Those people always vote, and clearly the proportion of blue "always voters" is dwindling compared to red "always voters". Yes ignorant voters lean red, but it doesn't matter. Stop pretending like there's a huge swath of "swing" voters. There's not. Trump got basically the same votes this time. This election came down to the 10 million Biden voters who stayed home for Kamala. That's it. All the rest of this is nonsense bullshit propaganda to obscure the truth. Why didn't they come out for Kamala??

If they do, they will lose... Again

Yeah... Taking over the party would be easier if many people united to do so

No, this is called a healthy boundary... And if they stick to it, all the better... It shouldn't even be a difficult boundary for Dems to respect... Just stop running evil candidates... If the Dems can't adopt that strategy, well it's their strategy that will cost minorities, and they should be shamed and stripped of power for it.

The current Dem leadership can't really do much to stop it if they get voted out by the party members... And no, I'm basically saying the opposite of that... Vote smart, vote for leadership change in the party so the party is run by people like Bernie not Clinton

Only Democrats are allowed to vote to elect Democrat leadership... Need everyone in that coalition to register Dem and then vote for new leadership... 3rd party will always be spoiler until we take over and unrig everything

Party leadership is elected by regular party members at the state level, and then those choose the national leadership (oversimplification)... I'm sure the current leadership would fight back, but I don't think it would be all that hard to vote them out anyway

It would be easier for progressives to take over the DNC and state Dems than to form an entirely new party and make it viable.

It would be easier for progressives to take over the DNC and state Dems than to form an entirely new party and make it viable.

I've always thought "the guillotine society" had a nice ring to it... Not party isn't bad either

Man I hope she's playing the long con