Thank you for elaborating. I understand your position better now. To be honest, you sound a lot like my mom does.
I too wish we lived in a world where violent resistance wasn’t necessary, and the powerful people who control us would listen to peaceful activism. That, unfortunately, is an ideal and not our current reality.
In the absence of that, I desire a world where people are brave enough to take risks for what is right, and who aren’t handcuffed by their principles when the times call for action. The protestors who are out there right now are, by and large, those types of people: patriots who are willing to do what is necessary now so your children might be able to achieve the ideal you’ve described later.
Nothing wrong with talking about or looking at the dark side, but that was not how your comment came across. It came across as a “both sides” argument that simply does not hold water.
It’s like saying the confederates and the union both killed people, so they are both bad, completely ignoring that one side was fighting to deny rights to a whole race of people. Both sides are not the same here. The far right are in the wrong, and the only language they seem to understand is brute force.
Any person or group who uses their life to pursue injustice towards others for their race, religion, gender, orientation, or personal identity deserve to rot in hell. Those who send them there or work to slow them down deserve a medal and a thank you.
I believe the solution to a lot of problems in America is enhancing social mobility. If immigrants want to work in United States fields, and the farm owners can’t pay a living wage, then the only fair tradeoff is some other form of compensation.
Work for a set period of years, and once that is complete, programs are made easily available so those people can pursue education, entrepreneurship, and a path towards permanent residency or citizenship. After the initial working period, they would also be entitled to minimum wage, which would encourage a transition into a higher paying job of some kind, even if it is just a leadership role on the farm.
If a company is caught hiring illegal immigrants to skirt these rules, the company should be punished harshly and publicly shamed as if they were trying to hire slaves—that is essentially what they are doing in that case, diet slavery.
I believe this would provide a path that would be available to any able bodied immigrant who wants to work to start their journey in the United States while also setting them up for a future where they would not be disabled by poverty and exploitation. It would also meet the demands of manual labor in America, and open the door for increased profits by businesses who chose to hire immigrants.
Of course, the social mobility aspect should apply to citizens too. US citizens should get advanced education for free so that they can prosper in their own country and not feel like a job has been stolen from them by an immigrant taking up some of the hardest manual labor roles in the country. There is no reason that any American should be undereducated to the point of needing to pick fruit in the California sun.
You haven’t told me to cease talking to you in this thread. Regardless, I’m bored with this, so adios muchacho. Sorry if I stepped on your toes too much.
So throwing a smoke bomb or rock at a person isn’t violence, but trolling you a little with popcorn noises is harassment. Aye aye, cap’n. You have me quaking in my boots over here.
I was asking if it would make you feel better. You seem to really want it, but then you respond with more questions.
At this point, I’m not trying to make any digs or prove anything—what’s the point, we will never agree anyway. I’m just munching my popcorn while you charge at windmills.
So the only thing that matters is what type of insurrectionist he thinks you are. LA protestor = bad, racist literally overthrowing the government = good.
Ooh, I’ve got a good conundrum to discuss here. I went on a date with a stripper/escort. Beyond paying for normal date stuff like dinner or drinks, she didn’t ask for anything else in regards to payment. We don’t speak the same language, but she throws around a lot of words that would be pretty loaded in English after only 3 times of being around someone.
Do I assume deception and risk fucking it up, or assume honesty and risk getting taken to the cleaners? Come on Lemmy, I know you’ll be my salvation! So far, I’ve just been protecting my pocketbook and seeing how things evolve while trying to be as honest as possible.
Edit: not sure why people are downvoting, this is a real story that is related to the meme.
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This guy codes.