WaxedWookie @ WaxedWookie @lemmy.world

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I don't think that's true at all, but if it is, it becomes a question of whether that damage is outweighed by the benefit of the action.

Nah - let's just feel superior by whining about people doing something to defer the apocalypse - both stunts to draw attention, and shutting down oil pipelines directly.

What are you even trying to say here? That any bastard with a camera and something to show will magically be seen, or that everyone with a smartphone is going to be aware of everything that affects them? Because neither of those things is remotely close to the way the world works.

You were aware of the JSO protesters shutting down the oil pipeline? If and that's a big "if" so, do you think the average schmuck is? No. But chances are that they're aware of the stunts like the soup.

You stop the problem from being buried under the fact that everyone is struggling to get by, or distracted by whatever the fuck the likes of the Kardashians are up to. You bring it to the forefront and prompt conversations like these - conversations where someone might realise that to stay the course on this one is to roll down the road to the apocalypse, and maybe they'd like to do something about that.

Assuming there's no collateral damage to speak of, I'd argue it would be an act of self-defence for the benefit of all of us. In principle, I'd struggle to find reason to be upset by it.

Pissing away 40bn - 15% of your net worth to own the libs by destroying a company you were forced to buy requires an incredible degree of stupidity. Imagine the damage a remotely competent malicious narcissist could do with that kind of money.

For context, the 2016 election cost $6.5bn - for both sides, presidential and congressional elections - that comfortably buys you a quarter century of elections - and if the GOP has power for that long, at this point, there won't be another election to fund.

Musk clearly has sub-normal IQ - there's no shame in that, but he has no shortage of other reasons to be ashamed of himself.

Not with that attitude, it doesn't.

Never attribute to malice what can reasonably be attributed to the stupidity, hate, and pig-headedness of an exceptionally fragile billionaire.

Now with more hard 'r'.

They've done that too, and have encountered media blackouts.

As nice as it would be if they could simply fix the climate problem with the disruption a handful of protests cause, they can't, and need to draw public attention to the problem.

These demonstrations open up the conversation in threads like this - you agree there's a problem, you agree these protests don't fix the problem, so let's talk about what will.

I was thinking he'd wind up with a braniac-style nemesis.

Ah yes - the world's moral compass - the pinnacle of western civilisation killing people they have securely locked up where they can't be a danger to the public... for what - revenge?

Look at the money being spent to satiate this thirst for blood compared to keeping them locked up - or shudder making any attempt to rehabilitate people to be a productive member of society.

There's also the fact that if people hate him enough and realise how genuinely stupid the guy is, they'll start wondering if the economic system that allowed him to amass the wealth of a country as millions starve might be doing it wrong.

Killing cheeto Mussolini would be an act of war, and an act of peace - but most of all, Graham can fuck right off.

Nah - this is one where I'd favour a return to tradition... Except for the fact that Fetterman would demolish the Democrat ranks like an IDF tank through a children's hospital.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_violence

The matter came to a head when Robertson attempted to enter the Senate chamber to be sworn in and take his seat presiding over the session; he was attacked, beaten, and thrown bodily from the chamber by the Democrats, who then locked the chamber door, beginning four hours of intermittent mass brawling that spread throughout the Indiana Statehouse. The fight ended only after Republicans and Democrats started brandishing pistols and threatening to kill each other. The Governor deployed the Indianapolis Police Department to restore order.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/rules-procedures/tillman-mclaurin-rule-xix.htm

On February 22, 1902, John McLaurin, South Carolina's junior senator, raced into the Senate Chamber and pronounced that state's senior senator, Ben Tillman, guilty of "a willful, malicious, and deliberate lie." Standing nearby, Tillman spun around and punched McLaurin squarely in the jaw. The chamber exploded in pandemonium as members struggled to separate both members of the South Carolina delegation. In a long moment, it was over, but not without stinging bruises both to bystanders and to the Senate's sense of decorum.

Although Tillman and McLaurin had once been political allies, the relationship had recently cooled. Both were Democrats, but McLaurin had moved closer to the Republicans, who then controlled Congress, the White House, and a lot of South Carolina patronage. When McLaurin changed his position to support Republicans on a controversial treaty, Tillman's rage erupted. With McLaurin away from the chamber, he had charged that his colleague had succumbed to "improper influences."

On February 28, 1902, the Senate censured both men and several weeks later, added to its rules the provision that survives today as part of Rule XIX: "No senator in debate shall, directly or indirectly, by any form of words impute to another Senator or to other Senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a Senator."

It's shitty, but you will get one of them in power, and it's encumbent on you to vote for the obvious lesser of two evils.

If you like the Greens (or whoever else's) policies, work to fight for them the other 1,458 days of the election cycle - polling day is for buying a few more years of moribund US democracy - not for pissing away your vote and letting the fascists in.

Leftists and enlightened centrists unified in disdain for both parties, but knowing they've got to do their bit to stave off the rise of fascism.

Part of the problem is that for the 6 debunking it, there are 26 uncritically amplifying that statement in a flagrant act of journalistic malpractice in service of ending democracy for clicks... Not that anything would change the minds of the MAGAt cultists at this point.

I think your watch might be running a little slow, friend.