My apologies, I really let that one get away from me. Thank you for being so understanding / moderating this community, I can't imagine it's particularly fun right now.
The need to preemptively dismiss criticism of your sources kinda speaks to a personal doubt in the validity of said sources, but that article seems fine so I don't know why you felt the need to do that? You're all good as far as I can tell! I don't actually see anything there I'm in disagreement with though. Thank you for being thorough!
At no point did I deny I insulted you. Jackass is a mildly insulting term used to ascribe extreme obstinance, often in the defiance of reason or self interest, a trait donkeys (the eponymous 'jackasses') are famous for. It's not an unfair characterization, and I can expand on what I mean with that if you'd like.
The most hostile I have been towards you is telling you to go hug your kid. And I was sincere. It's hard for me, someone with decades of experience of being persecuted for being LGBT+ and that has a huge and entrenched local community I can fall back on for support, to handle this right now. I cannot imagine how hard this is on her, and though I'm certain from your many characterizations of her that she understands and appreciates the necessity and what you are doing for her, she could probably use a hug right now. And asking someone to walk away from the keyboard and evaluate what is actually important in their life right now is fairly hostile.
I’m sorry you are at risk, but that is no reason to repeatedly insult me.
Being told to rely on the police because there is no other hope, while I suspect I understand why you said it, is incredibly tactless bordering on open insult. I've been gassed and/or beaten by the cops more times than I can count, even shot once, and generally harassed endlessly. I am not even slightly unique in this experience. Spreading a message of hopelessness and submission isn't what anyone needs right now.
(If you think my saying you fled the country is an insult, that's on you. I'd have skipped my family right the fuck out of here if I could, and I sure as fuck don't think less of you for doing it)
I have gone through this entire comment chain three times now and I have not seen you give one single idea about how to deal with these terrorists.
No, you have made it very clear that you have zero ideas how to deal with terrorists.
Sigh... I said I don't know, repeatedly, and even quoted myself saying that. I don't have an answer, I'm just certain that you and I are in complete agreement on how much we can trust the cops to keep us and ours safe during this. They're the thing I'm worried about, they aren't about to turn on each other.
and crying from stress
Lie, I’m not doing that.
Me, squiddy. I am the person that was doing that. I've been doing that for a little over a week now. They're going to kill my damn family, dude. My students. My friends. And there's not much else I can do except cry about it.
Just gonna ignore me having answered your question repeatedly? Good call, it's not a great look for you. Though I kinda expected you to be going somewhere what with your insistence I answer your question. Was... was the whole point just to get me to answer it? Like some kind of dog obedience training alpha/omega thing? (Can you answer my rhetorical question now, because that'd be kinda silly)
Oh, and I don't know why the hell you think I'm blaming you for this whole mess (again "go hug your kid" and crying from stress isn't exactly the stuff of playground nightmares, or even really "lashing out" at someone being a jerk) but for the like eightieth time, I'm not mad at you for anything. You're not exactly using your wiles to draw me into this even, I always enjoy bickering with you.
... That was clearly rhetorical, but dude like calm down? I've even answered your question multiple times already.
Well damn, you sure picked up on the subtext there, way to figure it out squiddy!
Where the fuck are they supposed to go? IDK
(Ah fine I'll play, I can't sleep anyways) if you somehow need it even more explicitly laid out: We cannot rely on the cops here, obviously. If you thought we could actually fight fire with fire, you wouldn't have needed to flee the country with your daughter. Do you really see this whole interaction as adversarial? Buddy the most hostile I've been towards you is telling you to go hug your kid. That's not exactly... er... bullying. It's barely even mockery. And you're calling that "lashing out". God only knows how you'd react if I said something really out there, like "I get you have a really rough time interacting on the internet, but I still hope you have a nice day".
Is... that what you want from this? Me to admit I don't know how anyone I care about is going to survive this? Well damn, you sure picked up on the subtext there, way to figure it out squiddy! You sure sussed this one out!
You know I'm usually game to bat the birdie of argumentation around with you, but just... not right now, man. Not about this.
I'm genuinely glad you managed to get out with you and yours, but the rest of us that are still stuck here are busy trying to figure out how to actually deal with this. More than 10% of my students are trans this year and around half have no-contact orders filed for their immediate family. Where the fuck are they supposed to go? IDK, but if we don't figure it out they are SOL. So I'm begging you, just for a little bit, please just stop pulling this on people here. We're all scared, and the shit you do like this really, really doesn't help anyone but you feel better.
Squiddy, are you seriously saying our only hope is the cops? I know you love arguing against things but if that's what you sincerely believe you have lost your damn mind.
Sure, and the irony in the original post is as obvious as it is in scubus' comment. They seem to present this - an extrajudicial killing by the police, the enforcement arm of the judicial system - as an example of the extrajudicial justice we must rely on since the judicial system has categorically failed us. It just doesn't make sense (and it has nothing to do with my initial comment)
IDGAF about this guy dying, good riddance, but I do care that so many people in this thread are openly cheering the cops having killed him. I'm aware of the irony, I just think the sheer amount of bloodlust on display here is pretty concerning. Do people think the cops like... meant to do this? They're just going to keep killing us, but they screwed up and got one of their guys this time.
Well no, the crickets were all killed off too.