VintageGenious @ VintageGenious @sh.itjust.works

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Basically patreon for opensource? Or are there some key differences?

I agree with what @barsoap@lemm.ee said here. My argument is the same than what you've already heard: since it doesn't take the original images, but rather learn from them, it acts as a human who also learns from many different images and it would make no sense to copyright all artists that a human is trained on. Also it's true that a human artist also has his own experience that also influence the art while the neural network only has the art, however, the ai artist will provide this personal experience. So imo you shouldn't consider image generations as plagiarism.

Though, I do agree that having people scraping your art to train a model on it is frustrating, even though it was already the case with people training on your art for their personal experience. In the case of a model it's way more similar to the original art pieces. I haven't made my mind on the ehtics of model training, but generating is not plagiarism in my opinion.

Anyway, my original stance was on generative ai to be used as art and not on it being plagiarism or not. Generative ai brings a say to make full pictures with minimal effort and some people generate hundreds of unoriginal similar images. Imo, since it is easy to have a final image, the artistic effort is elsewhere: the composition, originality of the subjects, mixing of new techniques: regional prompt, lora, controlnet, etc., mixing with other tools : photoshop, blender, animation, etc. You definitely can make art with generative ai, and it takes more time that it looks like. (Look up a video on comfyui, sdnext or invokeai to see example of workflows)

Both neural networks and the current state of ai art

Generative ai is not only prompting, which shows you don't know. Who are you to decide what is creativity and innovation? Are you Mr Art?

Anyway, it is not ingesting images and photobashing them into a final picture, that's not how it works. It has no memory of training data images, instead it learned to generate images by trying and when similar to a training data image going more in that direction. So it has the ability to create in the same style, but the original images it doesn't have them

While they manage to build the crappiest image generator

Sure the style isn't new, but you can make it work in new pieces that didn't exist before, you can also merge art styles and combine concepts not blended before. There have been many innovating art kinds from generative ai, like infinitely zooming pieces or beat-synced deformation of faces or working qr code art pieces, mix use of 3d modeling then controlnet to make custom scenes, many things too detailed to be done by a human in a reasonable time.

Stop saying random things you don't understand

Same dumb people that don't want to put a like on news about war because they don't like the fact people die

Social media has been proven to be bad for kids Way too broad statement, which social media, which kids, how "bad"? There's no scientific statement without those precision, and the broad opposite of your broad statement could as well be "proven" using studies

Sad to see people here supporting the same kinds of policies that are diametrically opposed to privacy on the internet.

Parental control softwares are always parents failing to take the time to properly educate themselves and their children to the internet, as well as trust issue towards their children, which is bad parenting since it leads children into lying to them and finding alternatives as well as feeling seen "as a child", bad for teens...

Moreover those softwares are, as I said earlier nearly malwares

It's easy to be faster with exponentially less features. Even vscode is lacking behind jetbrains. Most features I need that are not there is quickly finding all usages (actual usages instead of just search by name) as well as intelligent refactoring of all usages in all files and event some comments and it being done automatically if your move or rename a file also. Also setting up a main run button is actually very annoying to do in most languages in vscode (idk if you can even do it in zed?), you eventually have to ude commandlinz for everything. Also the lack of language formatter for all languages...

Because ios/ipados ui is very bad and unintuitive.

To make it look "clean" and "minimalistic" you actual features are hidden behind hidden menus, you need to use the share menu to do basic file operations that are not share related, and they keep adding more unrelated functions either there in the text selection overlay.

The worse is that when something doesn't work you cannot do anything since it should look good, so if an app starts bugging (which can actually happen a lot), you wan't be able to properly see what's happening maybe you can empty cache in their messed up settings where every new app is a new setting tab..., won't be able to pick default app for opening something, you might as well uninstall other apps to select default banking app. Basically every time there's a problem, you will not have possibility to fix it because it's supposed to be problem less, which it isn't

How does it happen?

Yes I thinks this tells much

I have evidence, but needed more

Yes I mean he's not defining himself as against free speech but his actions show

Thanks

I hope I would do better if I was trolling :)

Anyway thanks for the search keywords

Moving to antipolar stance requires way more proofs than moving from a neutral stance. Moreover some people may be more informed than me and they could be useful

You might be true, Though I wanted thought out answers rather than rage bait