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  • Yeah that was also my reason to say that it doesn't always work like that.

    People also defend companies or system that lack transparancy, things like not publishing annual reports etc

  • But if a CEO does something that actually destroys the company (without question) the governance structure that most companies in most countries have will put a halt to it. If the company is of size to have an actual CEO than they will have a need for a governance structure.

    The sad part is that due to whatever reason it doesn't always work like that.

    Heck somebody once told me that in the US you can just fire people for whatever, which is insane to me

  • Civilisation is a good thing yes also having access to clean and drinkable water is a good thing, but we don't need to flush our toilets with drink water, we don't need to shower with drink water, we don't need to water our plants with drink water or wash our cars with drink water.

    I drink a lot of water per day and I hate it when I am in a country where I can't, but buying jugs of 8 litter water to drink isn't the worst thing either.

    And since when are we obsessed about something when we talking about hypotheticals? Cause that is what this all was, heck I didn't even start about cars, that other person did ...

  • Tell me your secret on how to get these things out of a building, it's already freaking hard in a house where the door doesn't open every 5 minutes.

    Flies or wasps are also a completely different thing. The worst/only thing that can happen with wasps is that one doesn't move away when you take a bite and stings you.

    Edit: yes I know mosquito nets etc will help against flies, but that generally doesn't help in a store (depending on the type of door even impossible). Plus once they open insects like to get in with the people at the same time and even if nothing opens they tend to find a way in a lot of buildings.

  • Yes I know we have plenty of ways to get water from A to B, but that isn't my point.

    I am just saying that this hypothetical depends on what we would be giving up. If we can still live our lives, but we have to get water from the store instead of from the tap, I would be fine with it.

    Car's are a necessary evil at the moment, and we need to change that, sadly there are a lot of people in countries like the US or Canada who actively work against biking, walking and public infrastructure.

    "We need to remove the bike lanes because the fire engine can't get to point C quickly enough" meanwhile in NL they just drive over the bike lanes to get to D even quicker ....

  • If you work in the public sector you often don't have shareholders breathing down your neck for more profit (but it can happen). And yes smaller companies can have bullshit bosses as well, especially when they are the type that either already had decently sized companies or just wants to be the next millionaire.

  • Not the person who you replied to, but if you could trade all the cars in the world to go back to using rainwater to shower/flush toilets and buy drink water I think we should take that deal.

    It has already been proven countless times that having walkable/bikeable cities with the adition of public transport is better for our health and the environment. Most countries don't even have drinkable water out of the tap anyway.

    The only issue is that it doesn't rain enough in a lot of countries to keep up with our water usage for showering/flushing toilets, but infrastructure to move water is as old as the Roman's, so we would find a way again.

  • Just because the US has only 2 real options to vote for doesn't mean people can have different opinions. It isn't for nothing that in a country like The Netherlands we have like 40 parties, including centre parties.

  • . The US has been screwing around with a women’s rights amendment to our Constitution for over 100 years and we still can’t get that done To be fair to the US the 50 states basically act like they are different countries instead of different states.

    never spend a cent you don’t have to This is a pretty common ethos in The Netherlands among other countries, but there is a rising trend in purchasing power and people (with or without a rise in purchasing power) are making more informed decisions and realise that often the mom and pop store option is cheaper in the long run. Heck we had a store (the Jumbo) which used to not have discounts, but saw less people buying from them that they changed it so now they are offering discounts again.

    I see it a lot in the retro gaming community. In NL, a country the is 240 times smaller than the US, we have a lot more options to buy our games from. Heck I can find American limited releases easier in The Netherlands than in the US.

  • Yep. I’m thinking more and more what “made us great” in the past was the relative youth of our institutions. The longer these things run the further from ideal they tend to become. I would be very much in favor of institutional reform to attempt to continually improve these situations, but of course “institutional reform” is often a cover for fast-track corruption enabling.

    I am not sure if this is even correct, The Netherlands as it currently is, is pretty young, but people have been living in Europe for ages. We are one of the countries with the lowest corrupt, we do pay a lot of corrupt nations/people though, but that is a different story.

    Dystopian future stories about global corporate rule making governments irrelevant have been around for a long long time - the US is continuing to develop in that direction, but we do have at least a little further to go before we completely get there (even with recent accelerations in some areas.) It is hard for people in the US to make a choice other than support these companies, mom and pop stores are an alternative. In Europe, I am seeing a trend that we are more focusing on EU based alternatives or even better national based alternatives. (or open source, even better imo)

  • But was there a situation where they were needed? Or were they standing doing nothing because there was nothing?

    I have known multiple firefighters which were happy most of the time to get the support from the cops to handle the situation.

    The cops I have seen were always doing something even if it were just patrolling. You can call that useless, but at least they are outside and can be called.

  • Who say it has to be one man, it doesn't have to be one person.

    But as somebody who has studied a couple laws (tax laws, some general laws etc) I can tell you that there is so much going on that somebody who hasn´t studied about it shouldn´t have an impactfull stay in it.

    In the article you linked had this in the second sentance:

    In 2008, judges Michael Conahan and Mark Ciavarella were convicted of accepting money in return for imposing harsh adjudications on juveniles to increase occupancy at a private prison operated by PA Child Care.[2]

    Yes, if corruption is rampant in your country than no it doesn't work, but that also means a jury can be bought. Probably harder though, so I guess you have a point. I know the US is a corrupt nation, but I always think of it not being a corrupt country. The absurd legal fees, getting paid for more than the actual damages among other things don´t really help to get a second opinion in terms of a lawsuit which everybody in at least the western world has a right to as far as I know.

    In NL we do often have cases with only 1 judge, but for important cases we will have 3 judges.

  • It sounds like you are talking about a lawsuit instead of a complaint, or at least I see the two different. Complaints don´t have anything to do with the actual court and lawsuits do.

    The restaurant example comes from a friend who was running a restaurant when he decided to run for political office. His incumbent opponent was directing health inspections of his restaurant at about 10x the normal frequency of inspections

    That is just corruption shining through, something like that (samples) should only be done in set intervals f.e. Man, the US really sucks. And people keep going to massive companies and especially in the US that is destroying jobs and possible the entire country. A lot of the money from massive companies doesn't end up inside the US government's treasury.