Viking_Hippie @ Viking_Hippie @lemmy.dbzer0.com

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It's fine if you think this, but I don't agree with any of it.

Which makes you wrong. Which is your right, I guess 🤷

It's good that the constitution is old

Nope. Literally nothing beneficial about that

and remains relevant

Does it, though? Or is that just something you've convinced yourself of to avoid confronting the reality that you're basing a 21st century society on the ideas of 1700s slave owners?

it can protect us from the hysteria of the times

Clearly it CAN'T, as evidenced by this gestures at everything

For example, a lot of morons have convinced themselves that the first amendment is a bad thing. I would hate for this 'new document' of yours to be made without protections for freedom of speech.

Fun fact: such morons exist in all countries, yet almost all other constitutions DO include free speech protections.

To pretend that the First Amendment is somehow unique and impossible to replicate is so obtuse that I'm beginning to doubt if you know the first thing about how any of this works 🤦

The issues preventing us from making amendments would still be present trying to create a brand new constitution

Yes, I specifically addressed that already. Those issues would need to be dealt with first. Which has nothing to do with whether or not sticking with the centuries old decrees of slave owners is in itself a good idea.

I wouldn't trust the current government,

Me neither. That it exists in its current condition is exhibit A of the case against insisting on a functionally dead document that's not fit for the times we live in.

or most of its citizens

How would you know? Under the current system, anywhere from a third to over half of them aren't ever consulted, or even acknowledged.

to make better decisions than what we have in the Bill of Rights

You sure about that? Other than the second one, which has been obsolete since the US acquired a standing military, all of the 10 first amendments are either present in newer constitutions, routinely violated with impunity by the people in power, or both.

No one is glossing over that.

That's just flat out false. The Dem leadership is still bending over backwards to make bipartisan deals with fascists who don't negotiate in good faith and their messaging is all about messaging to almost-Trumpers about how HE is bad while not addressing the underlying problems. Some of which the Dems themselves are partly to blame for.

People need a face for an enemy

Yeah, that worked SUPER well when they lost to the most unqualified and personally repulsive person to ever run for president TWICE and only BARELY beat him while he was actively ignoring an ongoing pandemic 🙄

Nebulous constructs will not focus anger.

There's nothing "nebulous" about concentration camps, systemic discrimination, complete subservience to a madman, and specific policy that is ruinous to regular people while further enriching the already extremely rich and powerful.

There's SO much more than only Trump to focus on for the Dem leadership, which would be MUCH more effective in appealing to the actual concerns of regular people and thus increasing voter participation, which would doom the GOP to obscurity in a few cycles if done right.

We don't need a new constitution.

Disagree. Nothing written by a bunch of white slave owners 250 years ago can possibly anticipate the needs of 21st century society. That's why it's been patched up more than two dozen times and STILL doesn't work adequately.

We need new amendments.

No, adding fresh coats of paint on a cracked foundation doesn't work. Especially not when you can't even agree on the permission to paint.

The constitution is a living document

It was SUPPOSED to be, but it's being treated more like a (barely) secular bible.

both democrats and republicans benefit from the status quo so they don't want to change it.

And the fact that they're ALLOWED to be almost completely nonresponsive to the will of the people is in large part due to the constitution assuming good faith from all politicians and as such having no defense against blatant lies and demagoguery.

The rest of the reason is mostly the influence of corporations and individuals with many times more financial power than the founders ever imagined possible.

The constitution, amendments and all, simply isn't built to withstand such naked assaults on the very basis of representative democracy.

I know.

It's one of the many reasons why the US needs a new constitution fit for a modern and civilized society rather than treat the oldest one still in effect as inviolable holy writ.

And yes, I know that it's effectively impossible to achieve as long as the current system of the rich owning both parties exists, but that just makes it a more difficult goal, not an undesirable one.

I love that people are protesting, but the whole "no kings" thing? Really missing the fascist forest for the orange tree.

Is Trump a fascist wannabe dictator? Yes.

Is he a tumor who is killing American democracy? Yes.

He's not doing it alone, though, he didn't pop up out of nowhere, and the underlying cancers that made his regime possible won't just magically vanish when he hopefully succumbs to almost 80 years of bad diet and almost no exercise within the next couple of years.

The GOP is a fascist party enabled by an effective disinformation machine creating not just a cult of personality around Trump himself, but also a cult of hate that is as united by hostility towards The Others as much as their adoration of the Mango Mussolini.

Unless the DNC leadership and the protest organizers step up their messaging and starts listening to and representing the ignored third of the country to the Left of Ronald Reagan and the Cheneys, fascism won't go away when the abomination currently infesting the oval office finally croaks.

Ah! Angelo!

And almost all of the remaining 92% also exist to generate private profits with which to bribe politicians to increase profits to bribe politicians with.

All at the low, low cost of enslaving millions of people!

Dammit, now I want a herring sandwich 😄

There was a fair bit of inflation and a World Cup where their team performed below expectations.

Which is a piece of shit, when you look at it 🤷

Nobody shrugs while being crucified like Eric Idle 😄

Claims like that and the actions following from them is why I'm currently in litigation with the Dunkin' franchise of Tightsqueeze, Virginia.

It doesn't help that they also insist that "mole blood is basically coffee"..

Oh, THAT kind of sign language? No wonder it wasn't reacting to my semaphore then!

Sounds like your Gen X friends are lying about their age 😉

Speaking as an elder millennial who knows many other millennials who in turn know a lot more millennials, I have no idea where you got "most of us".

You're doing exactly what you're accusing OP of, except you're wrong and they're not.

Jeg kan bestemt bruge begge dele! 😄

I tried, but it wouldn't listen

To be fair, he, a 65yo man, held a press conference on the White House lawn basically saying that now that he was the president, nobody could force him to eat broccoli anymore.

It was childish weirdness and waste of time and resources of Trumpian levels at a time when presidents were still expected to be reasonably competent, responsible, and sane

Given all that, it's hardly surprising that it caused a stir..

George Washington didn't carve.

Cannes!

the lawyers for the government missed a 9:30 a.m. deadline the judge set Wednesday.

In response to the letter, the judge gave the government until 1:30 p.m. Friday

For fuck's sake! If Khalil's lawyers had missed a deadline, you can bet your ass that he'd lose the case, but the swindlers and thugs who kidnapped him just get a free extension 🤬