VictimOfReligion @ VictimOfReligion @lemmygrad.ml

Cult survivor. Against most forms of religions, specially anti-scientist on

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Uh, the next ones

People asked, I answered 🤷‍♂️

I was making a walltext, but because my phone is garbage, and can't do a swift job regarding copy pasting from different sources, so I will first say the first short part, and do the fat one in some note or something that doesn't dissappear because of not enough data...

Ahem.

The Hebrew supremacy is not something that was born during the Roman Empire, its something the Old Testament is filled with, to the point that there's even today in some Judaist sects, the celebration of the Amalekite genocide (which could have been pretty fictional, but still not so wholesome, frankly). The OT is filled with promises of conquest and of enslavement of the rest of the world from the Israelites, either from Elohist (older) sources and from Yahwehist sources. Now I'm going to do the collage work wherever I can.

Yeah, it's the same interpretation that a sect of ancient pre-orthodox Christians (we have to interpret Orthodox not as the Orthodoxy post great Schism) that were then persecuted and had to fly outside the Roman Empire to the Arabian Penninsula. The Gnostics had a similar fate, but I think that Gnostics were directly wiped out.

Jesus was an eschatological prophet-avatar that announced the comming of the end of the world to achieve world dominance/paradise, while portraying non Jewish as worthless dogs and generally bad people. Also, its teachings were mostly, if not all, towards Jewish, being himself the guru of hos own cult following, and, here we come, demanded that the followers pray for this end of the world massacre where only few (of course of his own race) will be saved. Something that is still present in the Gospels and the NT in general.

I have to plant the seed of counter propaganda, comrade. This myth of portraying Jesus, a character who was condoning racism, tribalism, pseudoscience, theocracism, inmovility, etc, as some sort of socialist caring bear makes good to no one except for religious institutions, who have enormous material and social benefits from it.

Kind of like making memes with Churchill as a good guy and Stalin as worse than Hitler thing.

No... Wtf? I mean, yeah, the Gospels contradict each other, and stuff, but depending on the sect and in general therms, Jesus was never a normal man, only in the most gnostic of the gospels, Mark, which is the first one (historically) may interpret this thing, but the religious consensus is that Jesus is divine, not just a prophet like Moses, even if Jesus said that if Moses wasn't real, he was for nothing. Spoiler:Moses never existed.

Both. Both of them. And if you count trinitarian mythology, Jesus is god.

The meme is backwards. Jesus was the one wanting massive genocide except for a little group of cultists.

I swear, fucking fanatics of faith healing, antivaxxers and the rest of idealist lunatics are driving us to extinction via germs

Woah, just what I need!

Worry not, comrade. We all have bad days and bad moments.

Under the context of Zardoz it is about killing being good and reproducing being bad, tho. Also,ain't hornism a consequence of different capitalist industries, being everyone, including liberals, victims of?

Under a capitalist / classist system? Yes, it will go full Zardoz, with floating faces saying "the gun is good, the penis is evil", and cultist running with Beach-Borat with boots - like outfits and all, but I can't see how under a communist system this can in any way become bad.

I mean... According to Romans, Yahweh was Bacchus, and even had commemorative coins of "Baccvs Iueus" kneeling, as a symbol of the deity admitting defeat.

While I'm starting to remember what you said abour Sargon and all that as correct, the thing about Zoroastrians, is that they were in great consideration and loved and admired by a lot of people by their teachings, but never held a propagandístic teaching, and was ethnocentric,meaning that the responsibility of adoration was over the Persians themselves, but that salvation was universal, for Ahura Mazda would save everyone good enough, and who were not with redeeming qualities, sent to hell to purify themselves, and then go to Paradaija(the word Paradise is from Persian origin, yes), because the main perpetrator of wickedness is Angra Mainyu, the rest are victims (which, by the way, the notion we have of Satan is also copied from Angra, sincr Satan was literally just a god of judgement to see if people were actually good or not).

Ah, yes. Zoroastrianism is also escathologic, and wait for a savior born from a Virgin, without sin, to form an army to destroy Angra Mainyu once and for all, so Ahura Mazda can make the Earth into a paradise. Pretty much like Deutero Isaiah.

Chaldeans, really? The neobabylonians were Chaldeans? Man, I have to read again all fucking Mesopotamina history hahahaha

Assyrians perdured too, but they were culturally converted already into neo Babylonians, and then when the Persians came, the people regarded Cyrus the great like a hero, since it was the first emperor to abolish slavery since the conception of religion in the middle east. There was also a sort of "super proto socialist" revolution in some Sumerian city-state, but it falled rapidly to Sargon of Akkad, tho. (If I remember well). Meaning that it was anecdotal.

Ah, and it was during the Zoroastrian(Persian) influence that the Hebrews started to bootleg monolatry.

For your info Genesis 1 is newer than Genesis2, and 1 is made after Enuma Elish, which is the creation myth in honor of Marduk, the patron deity of the Akkadians, who kicked Hebrews's asses and sent them to Babylon.

And don't forget they will never bring how this is the result of theocracism opportunists seeking power with fascistoids, and how this shit is pandemic. And how hate-speech is protected under "religious freedom" too. Because its foolish as fuck trying to ignore this too.