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"Down with all forms of authoritarianism" is how i associate with the symbol. We do inded agree fash in any manifestation are a bad thing.

Meanwhile here in the Elon thread, I'd like for folks not to associate Communism with dead bigoted tyrants who usurped the unions-of-unions that were Soviets, while misattributing a quote from a capitalist whose competing to have as much blood on his hands as Stalin did.

Im authentically perplexed as to where we disagree and why you're in "sick dunk" mode. Do you think I'm simping for Stalin? The 3 arrows appeal to me for the same reasons they do you, seems.

Thag's rich conzidering Queerphobic, Racist Comstock laws. Literally projection.

Between these two episodes (i think these are the relevant entries, may be more) the realities, contrast to this politician's disinformation, are explored in depth:

1: Death Panel Podcast: Statues of Limitations https://m.soundcloud.com/deathpanel/teaser-statutes-of-limitation-w-melissa-gira-grant-042423 https://m.soundcloud.com/deathpanel/statutes-of-limitation-w-melissa-gira-grant-unlocked I'll edit in a quote/excerpt which iirc is what we should be doing rather than having to be getting caught up debunking disinformation from bad-faith actors like the incumbent

2: Death Panel Podcast: The Comstock Mindset https://m.soundcloud.com/deathpanel/the-comstock-mindset-w-melissa-gira-grant-032824

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF98ii6r_gU pretty sure this is the one [from the series] your post made me think of.. My take away as relevant here is that it's not overcomplicated: If your a marginalized person and you know your rights, all the facts and appeals reason will be dismissed by those who buy into the fear-based moral panic propaganda about you, solely on your intrinsic traits.

That's not a two-way street.

Choosing not to engage with such people does not put me in an information silo in the same way that the population influenced by right-wing authoritarianism choose to stand on both sides of a contradiction and refuse to analyze the true root causes of their woes; that you can't class traitor yourself onto the side of the ultra-wealthy, and that their Supreme Leader will throw them under the bus at the first incentive.

A person who chooses to protect their energy from such a Facebook uncle, does not consitute a both-sides.

Not that I went looking for anyone pressing a "both-sides" angle...hoping we can leave it behind in terms of "information silos"

Machismo culture: Maim yourself and your familial property to own the libs. Now that's what I call husbandry 🇺🇸🫡🦅🎆🐢🏝

Thanks much for this. Frankly it's the Stochastiv Terrorism (buying twitter, banning accounts handpicked by the Andy Gno type, iirc, promoting anti-freedom-from/of-gender types, promoting zionists and anti-semites (but I repeat myself)...the general trend of amplifying danger for folks who whom the world is already primed to scapegoat or antagonize. It's harmed journalism and is moving the electoral overton window to the far-right.

Will every reader know that? Will every reader also know the finer nuances of the 3 downward arrows, one of them referring to Stalin's authoritarianism? I'm not here to score sick comebacks? 🤷‍♀️

Right, and that's the joke. All that talent and progress is tainted by Elon's actions.

In my 20's I was all for it. I understand where the techbros are coming from. Now with over a decade more experience, I see clearly we need to spend so much more of our energy healing from traumas on the societal level: To dispel imperial-colonialist mindsets. Im thinkin of Bo Burningham speaking about how the empires exhausted all physical territory, and then discovered Data, going on to colonize every waking moment of our attention.

We need to shed the subconcious conquistador, with all it's machismo, all it's tribalism (most agregiously white supremacist nationalism) and covetous paranoia. It is a poison which will prevent us from making the societal leap from which all tides would rise.

Until we do that, all we'll get for this tech will be:

• dystopic labor camp colonies on Mars
• advertisements when we are trying to dream
• Military tech developed under the guise of "medical 🌈 disabilities 🌈 quality 🌈 of 🌈 life 🌈 improvement 🌈 research" [1]

And we collectively deserve better

1: DeathPanel Podcast | Wheelchair-to-Warfare Pipeline

I dont see whynanyone's surprised, anything Elon is touchung is tainted by association. It's not rocket science.

Too bad that Mark Zuckerberg coined it as a motto for Facebook then, huh?

Thanks. Vest advice I have to any person looking to help, is dont just be a passive ally. Step up as an accomplice. When there's a police protected parade of alt-right demonstrators, show them that they're outnumbered. The SRA does a good job of that, as one example.

The other advice is that whatever space you exist in, be proactive in showing bigots that there's no place at the table at your club.

To anyone reading: Just dont do nothing. You are as powerful as your solidarity.

Important to remind people that it's not theoretical when we talk about it. It's real human beings that are being scapegoated. It's real abusers that get a smokescreen.

asshats are still hiding their megalomaniac desire for power and control behind the well being of childeren

• war on people who drugs
• anti-freedom-from/of-gender mysogynists campaigns (anti-trans, anti-reproductive freedoms, anti-sexual minority, pro-eugenics)
• anti-immigration campains appealing to colonial-settler hypocrisy (creating refugees by way of exploiting & destabilizing their homes for profit of the imperial core)
• anti-houseless people campaigns - As violent crime declines, for-profit prison system requires a prison population to exploit, further incentiving criminalization of existing in public spaces or near law officers out to meet arbitrary quotas.

I mean, Shit, this is just Fear-Propaganda-Mania grift expanding into it's next logical killing floor. Just about anybody can be a scapegoat if you can convince the Imperial Middle that the target will harm "Women and Childeren"

All the while existing institutions and their authority figures, from "would never do anything wrong" trusted local gym coach, to the Catholic to the Mormon church, Scouts to Police Unions, and so many more carry out and stonewall any fix to the root cause that it's Trusted Authority Figures in Established Institutions that are abusing real-world victims, victims from all disenfranchised intersections of identitiy, here, now, in reality.

And the real kicker is that the listed terminology most accurately conveys the ideas in the fewest words possible, and people who follow right-wing-authoritaian influencers are groomed into shutting down when they see those exact words.

I know you were likely being facetious -- still had to go off 🫶

Oh ofc...and i wanted to use this moment to point out tge real-world outcomes that people are experiencing, because it's all too easy to fall into the trap of perceiving it as solely hypoyhetical. (Nearly wrote it off myself as "well, itll be nothing but bots soon"...but im tryna illustrate it just aint that simple)

Oh honey. Oh no that wasnt an insult. Id be more creative! I was stating a fact. Your posting history shows us that the Phantasm of scapegoat is allowing you to stand on both sides of the contradiction, simultaneously.

So, you can keep going down this path youre on. We both know where it leads though. Loneliness, and nothing good.

OR: Watch this Kratos lookin guy break down what's been going on in this area of thought for over a decade, and begin to heal, and then maybe you'll be able to make friends with people without expecting anything in return.

You deserve that. You deserve to be on both sides of that, and not the phantasm.

The Atlantic huh? Alright then, The Atlantic, I'll remember your name and that you published a piece concluding people are powerless to affect change.

Now (steelman) can I square this with the sentiment from Propaghandi's "A People's History of the World":

...we'll have to teach ourselves to analyze and understand
\ the systems of thought-control.
\ And share it with each other,
\ never sayed by brass rings or the threat of penalty.
\ I'll promise you- you promise me- not to sell each
\ other out to murderers, to thieves.
\ . who've manufactured our delusion that you and me
\ participate meaningfully in the process of running
\ our own lives. Yeah, you can vote however the fuck
\ you want, but power still calls all the shots.
\ And believe it or not, even if
\ (real) democracy broke loose,
\ power could/would just "make the economy scream" until we vote responsibly.

...

Does this apply here? The song is talking about ballot boxes and corporate explotation on a nation-state imperialist. The topic at hand is to do with the corporate exploitation on a worldwide colonization-of-attention level.

So i think the way I best square this question, do we have the ability to do something about it, is this:

Yes. You can do something. Not in the way that popular media depicts the french revolution. Revolution will instead be boring. In fact, IS: Change minds. Change your own mind about whatever forms of domination you have accepted as just. Demand to know who made OpenAI king. While you're at it, demand to know why it was just for Imperialist campaigns by "superpowers" justified The Contras. It's a history lesson we can learn from, believe it or not.

Will you stay down on your knees, or does power still call all the shots?

Please keep saying it.

This is Not news for queer* people.

I am in this instance using "Queer" to mean an umbrella for all who are othered by society.

I'm telling you that people with lifelong chronic disability, people who are sex workers, and people who are dispropotionately targeted by the law enforcement or the state, AND disenfranchised casually in everyday society because of their appearance and/or melanin levels...All have networks of contacts they have relied on for over a decade in many cases.

It was easy for me to get off Twitter but for a lot of people I care about, it'd mean severing so many important bonds...and I just thought this sentiment is something that someone reading might apply too, as well

The potential of a "exclusion argument" does not justify reinforcing the servile, assistant stereotype. Researchers arent pulling that one out of their ass.

I could pull together a youtube playlist of beardy men explaining why woman hating is bad. Would you like that?

(Edit: Rhetorical. We can all see your true colors with the "gay agenda" conspiracy pushing bs.)