you added 17 edits and made your arguemt 600% longer <--Lie
your argument changed completely <-- Lie
And I show you how I normally type cause I got big fingers and toye fast and I get in trouble. I go back to fix errors and get in trouble. There's no winnignwith you
Non edit again for clarity and because you can't go back and reread comments
I added the 'edits' immediately after I posted. Went back after starting to argue with you cause I realized I made some grammatical errors cause I went back to reread what I wrote.
So just ignore that my comment was there and has stayed consistent the whole time. That i.must apologize for going back and fixing errors i made cause inhale bigger fingers. I'm not even going back andcorrextingnanthtungnthis them cause this is how it normally looks befor I gor back.
You made the mistake by changing the argument and don't want to admit yoy pivoted, not me.
Thats literally not the same thing. CPP can cause actual health problems past wanting to kill yourself.
The drugs in this case it to make suure kid, primarily girls, can grow to their full height and bot have spinal issues due to that, lower cancer rates, and significantly lower the chances of diabetes.
Why wouldn't I want to give other access to body modifications even if i myself had those problems. Cause what I really needed was better adults to talk to and more people to tell me everything is fine.
And I know I don't have nearly as many problems as teans kids. And it's in abd faith to compare myself. I was originally trying to point out that I don't agree with giving kids drugs to change thrier lives cause then at what point does it get out of control and it's just blown over.
The fact that children are getting body modigicatiks after talking is still the problem.
It sucks people are born into the wrong body. I wish it didn't happen. But it does.
And if you start letting one group of kids start making body modifications, where do you draw the line of too much? Why would it be fair for a group to completely change gender but not for another to add more modifications the help theirs.
And this whole thread started by Argentina blocking those life altering changes. They didn't stop therepy or anything, atleast not from what I've seen. The article was super short and Google results didn't lead to much.
If they did then I'm sorry for the previous ignorance. But my original argument said dress and act a certain way all you want. And I'll add we need to crack down on people bullying those that want to transition. I just don't think the answer is let the child start transitioning. And it sucks for those that truly do know early that they should be yhe other gender.
But like, what about short people that know if they were taller than would have everything. What about kids who think if just had the one part of their body diffrent everything would be better? At what point do we stop the idealization that if we were just diffrent everything would be better and start helping kids in other ways.
I made those edits immediately. But even so at no point in my original argument did I talk about surgeries. You immediately went into moobs and fat boys.
Also, you didn't know my sex after saying when I was younger I wanted bigger muscles, a foot of height, and a massive dick? Then you really either have read anything of just dotn care to comprehend.
None of thee are also connected to issues that cause intense mental health issues, including suicidal ideation AND can be treated by your proposed suggestions.
This isn't leading to CIS people not having intense mental problems that can potentially be changed through body modifications? That only people who are trans want to kill themselves because of the body they were born with?
Everyone has problems mentally. And I'm truly sorry trans people haven't been helped in the past. But I honestly think and body modifications, be it through surgery or hormones or anything else, should be held off until we as a society agree children are adults. Else we might as well allow kids to smoke, drink, take steroids, or do anything that will let them have the "ideal" body.
Nah, nobody here has been talking about psycotherapist. If that was all it was, everything would be cool. This is about body modifications. Which no kid should be doing. Leave it till 18
But where do you draw the line of gender affirming care?
Is giving a teenage boy a bigger dick gender affirming care, and therefore essential medical care? What about a girl who's flat chested wanting bigger boobs? I know it's weird to ask and I do feel kinda gross but yeah. Is that too far? What about an athlete who wants to take steroids cause it would help them achieve their ideal body?
I'm genuinely not trying to be rude. I just, if you give the life altering drugs to one group of kids, where do you draw the line? What about kids who clearly need to hit a joint and chill but it's illegal cause they're underage? I don't think it's fair to give one group more privileges regardless of how they feel.
Well you're the one who went off on a rant on something I didn't even bring. I was talking about hormone blockers and you went off onto surgeries. Then when I brought up how I also would have liked some gender affirming care when younger you said well there's less trans people than fat boys. I never brought up weight, it's another thing you brought up.
I just, you're attacking me for trying to express my opinion. I'm open for civil discussion but you've been on the offense. If you have any points for anything I actually brought up that would be cool
You should have seen the post before I went back ahha