UlyssesT [he/him] @ UlyssesT @hexbear.net

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This thread is full of attempts to answer the problem and you having nothing to say about them except "no, don't do that, government bad, what about my treats."

Again, the implication is that you want the status quo to stay exactly the same and you lack the courage to even own up to that.

I assume you're joking but just in case you're not (or for the sake of people reading this that didn't catch it) by crypto- as a prefix I mean deceptively veiled fascist ideology that pretends to be something else or justified in some ostensibly politically acceptable way.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crypto-fascist

These "treats" you keep bringing up, most people call food.

You've already sunk your own argument with your prior "well I don't want to eat anything but yummy epic le Baconators don't tell me what to dooooooooo" statements. "Most people" is an empty statement where you apply your own destructive selfishness to the majority of humanity, and even if you were right, that's contributing to the ongoing ruination of the planet through both industrialized factory meat production pollution and the consequent massive carbon footprint of it all.

It's 2100ad, and we got rid of meat 80years ago, along with 10,000 years of human culinary culture and animal husbandry, and now we are right back where we started as far as green house gases (though probably worse because fossil fuels are still around). So what have you solved?

"Inflicting less suffering and death on living beings and reducing pollution and land depletion. And for what? What would all of that solve? That doesn't sound like unlimited meat treats to meeeeee!"

You have a clownishly destructive and selfish take. 🤡

The world would be in better shape, there'd be a lot less pollution and suffering to living beings, and they may not even notice the difference because they wouldn't be as used to shoveling down dae le epic Baconators.

None of that matters if the treatbrain got theirs, thus the "no one is forcing you" condescending tone which is a fucking lie.

You're probably in an area with a functional DMV. I concede that some states run their DMV pretty well, but California certainly isn't one of them.

The conversation is about the meat industry, not about the DMV.

Once again, exhaustively, since you brought it up here, what are you proposing for the California DMV? More privatization? If you say "government bad" and just sit there congratulating yourself, you've said nothing useful at all and are still supporting the status quo by default.

I wasn't calling for anything.

Saying "government intervention bad" over and over again is calling for more of the status quo. That's what a default position is if you condemn proposals to change it and say you "aren't calling for anything" otherwise.

I'm not proposing anything.

That's a bit of a lie because you keep saying "government bad" and with nothing else said that implies that the status quo that is failing life on Earth is acceptable to you, right now.

I'm just pointing out that "give it to the government" isn't a one and done solution.

And if you're proposing nothing else but "government bad" then you're supporting the status quo, again, by implication.

But the point remains that the government can be very disorganized, underfunded, and just generally bad at running facilities.

The underfunding generally causes the other problems you already listed.

Again, what are you proposing? The status quo which is destroying the planet? More privatization?

It was meant to be an example of the disaster that governments can make of something relatively simple.

You claim you're not calling for privatizing the DMV. So what are you calling for?

If you say "increased funding and more staffing with expanded benefits" then I will nod to that.

We can't afford that with our primary food supply. So if it was handed off to the government, extreme measures would need to be taken to ensure it's properly funded, managed by competent and qualified people, and well insulated from corruption. It's not as simple as "just let the government do it".

The current status quo is failing and more than that is cumulatively destroying the planet.

Cryptofascists will cite dead children to justify slaughtering many times more children in retaliation, each and every time, because they see those that are killed in that retaliation as less than human.

There's zero chance there's a measurable amount of carnists who actually commit to that.

Check out the treatbrains in this thread that apparently feel brave and smart by announcing that they want unfettered infinite access to meat treats.

Every time I hear someone complain about the DMV, USPS, etc, I assume they're being difficult to the workers. Every experience I've had with these kind of government services, I read up ahead on what I need, organize my shit, and show up prepared with a smile.

When I do that you see a wave of relief over the worker and they return the smile and respect. You can basically extrapolate the verbal abuse they deal with all day long.

With my secret method(being nice and respectful), every USPS worker I've interacted with has either been very friendly, or neutral but relieved.

Leave our brave troops alone goddamnit, be nice to them.

I think a lot of middle-aged-and-older edgelords had so much media exposure to "dae le post office" and "dae le DMV" (especially the "going postal" brainworms that infested the late 90s) that they substituted the reality of using such services for the fantasy they brought in, expect it to happen, and are abrasive assholes to those workers just to make that fantasy feel more real.

Yes as a child

You haven't apparently emotionally developed past that point in any way that I can notice.

You're a destructively selfish treatbrain that only wants changes that don't directly inconvenience you in ways you can immediately conceive.

In the mean time, government action to stop fossil fuels are the only priority that matters.

You're as ignorant as you are selfish.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/13/meat-greenhouses-gases-food-production-study

Planet's cumulatively getting desertified and poisoned by industrialized factory meat production and all of its concentrated waste and carbon output, but fuck that, you got yours.

It's funny

Stop prefacing totally-not-mad reply with "it's funny" challenge. Difficulty level: Redditor.

They're left leaning and pro-orientalist

They're left leaning and anti-imperialist

people here take memes really seriously and are offended that an AI could, in the future, create shitty memes

Where? Not seeing it here.

It's funny how

You sure you didn't just come in here pre-loaded to be mad at people you conjured up?

And then became a bloodsoaked colonial power to surpass the previous bloodsoaked colonial power.

I can tell that person is probably not in California (or is maybe some kind of MAGA sucker from the Central Valley) if they complain about the California DMV and want it privatized like the circus fire that is the state's PG&E monopoly.