TwilightVulpine @ TwilightVulpine @lemmy.world

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Deepfake porn IS an attack. It is itself a form of harassment, if you are doing it with images of people who didn't consent to it.

Technology is not immune to laws either. We aren't in the 90s wild west anymore, it has been made more than clear that laws apply to the internet too. Even new laws, if needed.

This is not even something unique to the computers. The advent of cameras led to new laws, and so will AI.

My former boss will have to prove it was me.

Sure sounds like someone doing completely innocent things. Just wholesome tech enthusiast behavior.

You might also just end up getting sued by your former boss on top of getting fired.

You gotta be pretty invested in it to think the solution to deepfake porn is more deepfake porn and that everybody is going to just accept it.

My mother wouldn't be thrilled to see it happening. Would yours?

Most people wouldn't punch you because of a banana but most people would judge you for appearing in porn. However much you might say "fuck them", the one most likely to get fucked, ironically enough, is you. There are people who get fired over it. It's bad enough to be treated in such way if you choose to engage in it, it's even worse if you didn't even actually do it.

I guess the situation is more like someone dangling a banana between you and the guy who's likely to punch you.

What really should happen is a very thorough widespread PSA campaign across all media including social media itself to educate parents about the risks of social media and how to set up filters so that children don't get to access just about anything on the internet.

Of course, but this is what makes me wonder, if there was anything truly objectionable happening, wouldn't they have been taken down already? It's not like this was a surprise release.

What you call them might not change how others treat you for it.

There are still people to believe in Bigfoot and UFOs, there's still people falling for hoaxes every day. To the extent that distrust is spreading, it's not manifested as widespread reasonable skepticism but the tendency to double down on what people already believe. There are more flat earthers today than there were decades ago.

We are heading to a point that if anyone says deepfake porn is fake, regardless of reasons and arguments, people might just think it's real just because they feel like it might be. At this point, this isn't even a new situation. Just like people skip reputable scientific and journalistic sources in favor of random blogs that validate what they already believe, they will treat images, deepfaked or not, much in the same way.

So, at best, some people might believe the victim regardless, but some won't no matter what is said, and they will treat them as if those images are real.

It's incredibly common for people not on social media to have friends and family member who are on social media.

Today? I wouldn't say that so confidently (on Lemmy even). People working in media and marketing do have to use it. Even if they aren't in it, it doesn't mean they are immune to such a thing happening, or that people they know won't stumble on it.

Yeah, but it's still humilliating for everyone involved, nevermind the additional harassment that might bring.

Frankly, folks saying "everyone will just start assuming all porn is fake and nobody will mind it anymore" are just deluding themselves. I dunno if they want it to turn out like this so they won't have to worry about the ethics of the matter, but that's not how people behave.

Social media is not known for keeping things contained.

Absolutely. It's not like they are incapable of decent original design. Daedream is cute and Depresso is funny as hell.

Florida has been banning books talking about racism and LGBT people from school library. I guarantee to you, this is not about preventing anyone from becoming extremist fuckers.

When it comes to Florida, sounds about right.

Good for her, but a lot of mothers are less enthusiastic of seeing their children like that

Why would it make revenge porn less of a thing? Why are so many people here convinced that as long people say it's "fake" it's not going to negatively affect them?

The mouth breathers will never go away. They might even use the excuse the other way around, that because someone could say just about everything is fake, then it might be real and the victim might be lying. Remember that blurry pictures of bigfoot were enough to fool a lot of people.

Hell, even others believe it is fake, wouldn't it still be humilliating?

Well, this very situation shows one can be as careful as they could and they might still have porn of themselves spread everywhere.

Oh I'm sure that must be a very nice thing to talk out with your mother or significant other.

"Don't worry they are plastering naked pictures of me everywhere, it's all fake"

Yeah, I agree. But being evocative of an idea is not illegal, unless the design is near indistinguishable or if they used files from Pokémon in the production of the Pals. Say, how many Superman copies are there? There are multiple stories out there whose main idea is "What if Superman was bad."

Meanwhile I see people going "Anubis is just Lucario" and I wonder why they think the Pokémon Company owns the idea of every single upright canid. It doesn't even have spikes or anything.