Tinidril @ Tinidril @midwest.social

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I think we might finally have a common demand that we can all agree on. Deport illegal immigrant Elon Musk and confiscate his ill gotten wealth. General strike time?

Read the summary.

We don't ship any oil, we ship an unrefined slurry

The oil products are part of that slurry, so is it slurry with oil products, or oil with crap in it? That's a weird semantic distinction to make. Crap oil wasn't intended as the technically correct term, but I chuckle the thought of at seeing that in the paperwork.

Sorry about the tone. It's becoming appropriate so often lately that I fear it's becoming a bad habit.

I internally objected to you referring to the refinement of the slurry as "modern processes". It's not inaccurate, but it implies improvement when the primary advantage is offshoring the pollution, as you just described. I partially think that an impending surge in renewables is a factor in their unwillingness to add the capability here. I guess we'll see if there is any truth to that now that we are Trumpland and renewables will probably be set back at least a decade.

Defense contractors have started entire wars to manipulate the market. It's all market manipulation.

What the fuck is a Landman?

I never said the US was incapable of building (or upgrading) refineries to handle shale (light sulfuric crap) oil. We just don't, for a variety of reasons. As of today, we ship the crap oil out and import the good stuff.

The EU has it's own rising fascism problem, with Canada not far behind. Hopefully the insanity in the US will drive things the other way, but threatening times are generally good for fascism.

The US produces crap oil that US refineries can't even process. We export that, then import the good stuff.

To be fair, he isn't exactly trustworthy.

It showed up in my inbox, and I see it in your comment history, but whatever.

I never said it was over. That was you.

It wasn't me who brought it up, and your question assumes too much. It's not over and resistance is happening, just don't look to the Democratic establishment for it.

I will never not criticize a politician for supporting a genocide. I'll vote for the lesser of two evils, but I won't condone evil with my silence.

Has it even occurred to you that maybe trying to shut people up isn't the best strategy? "Your voice is irrelevant and unwanted, but make sure you vote!"

If you can grasp that then you will have started to understand why neoliberalism always succumbs to fascism eventually. Mainstream Democratic thinking is pathetic.

Human beings are dying everyday in horribly unjust ways

No kidding, and you said you gave up on all of them. As soon as it gets a little tough in your neck of the woods you rolled over.

Gosh, that might be kinda the way some people felt when they thought they voted in the good guys and ended up getting a genocide. Some people see Palestinians as human beings who should count in that equation.

I voted Kamala, but she and Biden let me down. It wasn't one or two issues, it was a total breakdown of her campaign communication strategy. When you look at what apolitical idiot voters got from the media, it's a wonder she didn't lose by more.

Part of that communication failure was in not taking serious issues seriously. People aren't going to get off the couch for someone who summarily dismisses their legitimate outrage.

I hate virtue voters

I don't care if the democrats ever "win again" now.

So, what you're saying is that they got there ahead of you. I guess we do become what we hate.

I don't fathom how you don't understand this. Its fucking over.

Not while the Earth still spins and my heart is still beating. It's not over, it just got hard.

The allies weren't led by the United States. The US industrial base was critical and the US military involvement was significant, but we were late to the effort and the Russians did a lot more of the fighting. (With a ton of US equipment for sure.)

If the left ever actually abandons the Democrats, they will never win another election again. Leftwing activists are the only activists the Democrats have. What do you think the Democratic ground game would look like without activists?

As a self appointed representative of left wing activism, no, fuck you. You did this.

one or two issues

Damn, I wonder what it was about the outreach to these people that failed. The Democratic attitude of addressing issues by minimizing or dismissing voter's legitimate issues couldn't possibly depress voter turnout. /s

Fucking neoliberal brain-rot.

That's a false narrative. The people who stayed home weren't the ones "demanding" anything. The ones making demands were almost entirely the ones who understood that other people would stay home. Your attacking people like me who were outraged by the actions of the Biden administration and the incompetency of the Kamala campaign, both because of the horrors they represent, and because we knew the vote would be suppressed. I voted for Kamala, but she let me down.

The people who stay home aren't the left wing activists, they are the apolitical schmucks who don't even consider voting until the week or day of the election.