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  • And they got War in return as they were repeatedly warned would happen. What's your point? And the US has bombed crap tons of people into the stone age for being threats to its monied interests. Why would anyone be stupid enough to think a different outcome would occur? Why would anyone be stupid enough to think after all the people the US has had killed, killing these really really self important fools would be a bridge to far?

  • estimate AKA guess.

    oops, “Several million voters didn’t come out to vote,” Becker said. “Which is telling me that this idea of the Trump wave, a huge number of voters shifting over to Trump, is certainly not the story.” seems you skipped some stuff just like you ignored what was being reported and posted in 2016.

    Sadly, as you are blatantly in bad faith, Yeah sure dude, whatever.

  • Then you were not there and didn't pay attention.
    Ben Ghazi and his Buttery Males review were pounded by the Republicans and the infighting over the primary season gave backing to it as that was the primary argument made against her and Democratic Party saw poor turn out as folks were apathetic, since they bought into the claims as a result of the infighting getting used by Corpo media to cudgel Clinton as corrupt and they all thought otherwise there was no horse race. The infighting was the singular reason it wasn't ignored by the apathetic no shows. Social media was full of "teach the Dems a lesson", much as it is today.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
    https://news.yale.edu/2021/04/21/swing-vote-trumped-turnout-2016-election
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-democrats-real-turnout-problem.html

  • It was very ugly and suppressed turn out because the folks that bought into the propaganda stayed home "to teach the Dem.s a lesson". Of course the actual lesson was lost a many folks that are again buying into the propaganda.