TheOriginalGregToo @ TheOriginalGregToo @lemmy.world

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Was Trump found guilty of insurrection? I must have missed that. My mistake.

It's funny that you mention THOSE Republicans because I'm old enough to remember when all three were hailed as the second coming of Hitler by the left. Weird how that's changed...

I heard him say "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard", but what do I know, I only watched it on video.

But you're right, letting democracy take its course is stupid, I don't trust the public to make decisions and have to go through the trouble of voting. The only good democracy is one in which we tell the people who they can vote for. We should probably bar the Republican party from participating too. We don't want to confuse people by giving them too many choices, especially since we obviously all want another term of Biden. He's the best!

Okay cool, so you're saying the ends justify the means and it has absolutely nothing to do with hindering your political adversary? So when your side is the one defying the constitution and the right takes antidemocratic steps to stop them, that will be justified and in no way will you complain?

I'm just happy we can protect democracy by interfering with democracy.

I thought we were supposed to hate gig work because it exploited the workers. Wasn't that the entire point of California's AB 5? Why all of a sudden are we in favor of gig work?

But that IS the jobs going away. You converted a full time job into an occasional time job. Say you were make $15/hr 40hrs/week. That's $600/week. Now they convert your full time job into a gig job and you're making $20/hr, but you only work 10 hours per week. You're now making $200/week. You now need to try and make up that $400/week shortfall in your income. Good thing you got that massive pay increase though, right?

Actually everyone I worked with in high school was a high school kid. The only person older than that was the store owner, and she obviously was making more due to her larger investment/risk.

Here's the problem with your entire pitch, I'm going to be paying taxes regardless. They will never go down, they will only ever go up. If one problem is solved the government will simply use my taxes for something else. This is how government works. Additionally, increased wages get passed onto the customer. I know many people here like to pretend that they don't, but prices either go up, or quality/quantity go down. That IS what happens, so I'll be paying for it either way.

Your whole argument about an increase in minimums allowing other workers to request raises also doesn't work. Instead what happens is the increase in pay causes an increase in prices, negating the gains across the board. We just saw this exact thing play out during covid. Stores had to very quickly increase the wages they were paying, prices went up, negating the increase in wages.

This is what's so annoying. I had literal arguments with both people online and IRL about this massive jump in minimum wage and how it would have this exact effect. I was told over and over that it didn't work like that, that people needed a livable wage, etc. My argument was that not all work has equal value and that minimum wage jobs aren't intended as jobs you raise a family on. They're a stepping stone as you enter the workforce and begin to develop/gain skills to be able to do work which has more value. With the insane increase in fast food minimum wage only one of two things will happen. Option one is that the price of the food shoots up and can no longer be competitive. Why would you pay $30 for fast food when you can go to an actual restaurant and get better quality for the same price? This leads many of these fast food joints to close and with it the jobs. Option two is that companies find ways to cut services and/or automate to offset the increased cost. The end result here is that once again the jobs go away.

I would love to have a proponent of this explain to me how no jobs is preferable to lower paying jobs. As a highschool kid, I was grateful to have my minimum wage job.

Yeah, the problem is those "other people" didn't face any actual consequences because their cause was an emotional response to racial injustice or some such nonsense. Crime is crime and should be punished as such. I don't give a shit if you think it was justified.

I'd like to also add this story in which rioters set fire to multiple buildings in close proximity to the White House and faced zero consequences because it was a "peaceful protest" rather than an "insurrection".

The world IS bigger than Seattle, I agree. That being said, Seattle is a key US city, and as such what happens there has cultural and political ramifications for our country as a whole. The fact that you are either dismissing and/or not aware of what happened there is a little troubling and makes me question your qualifications to hold an opinion on the matter.

As for the obviously hyperbolic claim that "whole cities were burned down", that's absurd. As someone who lives very near Los Angeles, I can tell you that there absolutely was widespread looting, vandalism, protests/riots, and violence. This was not localized and spread both into Orange County as well as the Inland Empire. I know this because 1. I saw it with my own eyes, and 2. I had multiple clients reach out to me and reschedule because they needed to shutter their businesses and board up their store fronts with plywood to prevent them from being smashed and looted.

Since we're sharing articles, how about this one that talks about two individuals who burned down a Wendy's. Both individuals pleaded guilty of 1st degree arson and as a result got a slap on the wrist ($500 fine and 150 hours of community service). Explain to me how that's even remotely a reasonable punishment for burning down a building...

What's my position, that BLM is a bullshit corrupt organization, shown time and time again through their fraudulent behavior? That criminal acts should not be excused as "mostly peaceful" or "summer of love"? That the left used gaslighting to excuse abhorrent and illegal actions because it was their side doing it?

Seriously, what's your point?

If Republicans are using that tactic, it's only cause they learned it from you.

Burning down buildings, looting businesses, assaulting people, property damage, physically intimidating people, murder = "summer of love" and "mostly peaceful protests".

Black lives matter ಠ_ಠ

I just think people I disagree with should be disqualified. It's a Democrat or it's nobody!

Weird, and here I thought it had nothing to do with her gender but rather her war mongering. Color me surprised. Happy to have someone insightful like you to tell me how I REALLY feel.

This comment is how I know you're a morally superior "good" person.

Shame on Trump for being such a meanie. Fortunately we have "good" people like you to oppose him.

Agreed, All Republicans should be removed. We should weaponize the election system and use it bar our adversaries.

Or, you know, it might simply be people with a different opinion from you. That exists too.

I believe in personal freedom. I believe in smaller, more local governance. I believe in gun rights and the right to defend oneself. I believe in free market capitalism, fewer entitlements, and lower taxes. I believe the family structure is key to a thriving society and think it should be encouraged from a policy/tax standpoint rather than dismantled in favor of government "parentage". I believe in meritocracy rather than the ever shifting goal post of equity. I do support abortion, but not in the late term/full term like many leftists do. I think it is a necessary evil and should never be celebrated.

You clearly missed the part where I said I was for open borders. Which current candidates oppose gay rights, and what rights are we talking about?