TheFogan @ TheFogan @programming.dev

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I disagree, I think there's plenty of court orders trump could do to test the waters without... well the undeniable fascism that is putting an innocent legal immigrant in a prison forever.

To me there's only 2 reasons not to bring him back... either it's actually impossible (IE he's dead), or he's seen and lived through some conditions that are drastically worse than we know, and they don't want him to talk.

Honestly, my money says probably not. It's quite frankly the best explanation for the solid stubornness of the trump admin. They've basically admitted he shouldn't be there. He's ignoring court orders, and now supreme court orders. The only 2 explanations I can come up with for why they don't want him back is.

1. The conditions of the prison are significantly worse than our imaginations have allowed us to think they are, and they don't want him to confirm that.
2. Same as 1, but his corpse rather than his words would be the testament to how bad they are.

Any other scenerio to me seems like the political views here would be so overwhelmingly bad that leaving the confirmed innocent man in prison and defying court orders overwhelms any possible reason not to bring him back.

Logically, in a world where the federal government faces due process. What happens if trump moves to ship him to El Salvador, and see's if he can convince them to execute him.

Yeah was going to say, there's certainly aversion to tech that can be paralleled assuming AI has a positive future state. But yeah, WIFI, Cellphones, television, radio waves, all things people feared without propor understanding, that are now standard parts of reality.

If hypothetically AI etc... gets close to actual sentience, artificial life may begin the culture war of attempting for personhood, fight for rights etc... in which case there will be a discussion, and assuming like all past personhood battles in the end AI is decided to have reached actual status of living... then yes those who are late to the bandwaggon and continuing to fight will be viewed just like our racists homophobes etc... But there is very little evidence that any current day AI has anything resembling feelings, wants desires etc... and just because this may be the predicessor to an AI that will. doesn't make hating chatgpt any worse than hating a doorbell.

Hell if somehow we were to discover say chatgpt actually has sentience right now in it's current used form... no one could be favorable in the current view, as even the staunchest supporters of AI, are only looking at it as slave work etc... There's not even room or a case for letting AI's be free for life, liberty and the pursuit of happyness (which, is because with our understandings none of those are applicable to it).

I mean pretty sure winrar runs just fine on WINE.

Though perhaps it's about seeing how many years into the 40 day trial you can go.

The actual history of the meme... it started as an MS paint sketch where they were looking to a flat earth. With just the first saying "WTF it's flat" one behind saying "sorry fam". The more popular follow up was one where they were looking, except the only land mass on earth was a giant state of ohio, and second astronaut responded with "always has been".

Oh as far as the idea that they didn't look at it in transit, no idea... though I suppose it's more reasonable that this is the first spacewalk or whatever. Would imagine most the trip up, you'd be looking ahead rather than back at earth. Also I suppose depends on the subtletly or lack there of of what earth is "all".

More importantly even then... IE there's absolutely been cases of streamers attracting crazy stalkers etc...

But proportionally they are extremely few. Would be insanely unlikely for the kind of person that's obsessed with them, also being a door dash driver, happening to have come across the streamers address. (from my recolection of my very brief time helping my GF door dash, when deciding which jobs to take, you only get the restraunt and the distance, only learn where the delivery is going after.

So hypothetically even if I knew Logan Pauls address. I'd have to camp out near restaurants near him... time my working when he might be ordering, guess which restaurant he's ordering from... Honestly it seems like a plan that would take years to hit all the boxes to go with... probably more efficiant to camp out on streets I think he'd walk down or break in to his house the old fashioned way if I already had that level of information.

Easy because the standards... in short the democratic party would be considered far right of acceptable in their country... our republicans would just be laughed out as so fringe it's ridiculous.

I don't believe he was arguing that Mahmound is a Nazi. He's noting that Trump, Elon, the far right etc... defend the hell out of Nazi's and white supremicists with "I'm not saying I agree with it, but I'll defend your right to say it, we're free speach purists", right up until someone with ideology that strongly opposes their views starts also talking... then it's shut him up, get rid of him.

is 200m what's been discovered, or just what was worth putting into this program? Not a huge expert but I thought it's all fairly easy to get the next number of pi, just seemingly never ending.

I think that is a current weakness that's being worked on, I'm seeing requests of more or less that https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4485

to make it federate or block, but unless I'm missing much newer updates, that is kind of the problem. My guess is on the whole it mostly resolves itself as... he probably will piss off the mods of cafe eventually as well, and the limited audience of only being visible to cafe would result in a near shadow ban effect to mostly starve them out.

well we're talking tarrifs, what are the penguins exporting to the US...

and I suppose maybe they aren't doing a good enough job combating fentonyl crossing over to the US.

So... it's entirely because we don't do enough business with russia right now.

God damn, how much are the penguins shipping over here.

That's my understanding of it, I'm not an expert so.. I'm only giving 70% confidence in my answer.

Put simply, Lets say hypothetically he's like you on lemmy.cafe.

and we'll say he's posting to to lemmy.world/c/memes which he was banned from.

His post will show up to lemmy.cafe users connected to memes... but his posts will only show up on the lemmy.cafe version of memes. When cafe federates back to world, world will just ignore the posts and not share them.

In addition they won't be seen by, lets say programming.dev here, while it hasn't banned this person, it's looking to world for it's copy of the community, which will not have your friends posts.

What if we just delay another month! that should do even more confidence...

I mean the concept seems pretty obvious. Obviously it won't be supprising when a film is made completely through AI... What will be suprising will be if it doesn't suck.

I find it weird that this is being viewed as a difference between the 2, when to me the quotes seem pretty much the same. IE the father

father: "I see you did this, it's terrible and I want nothing to do with it, it's an insult to life".

Son: "I don't think it's unlikely people will make a movie entirely through AI, whether anyone will want to see it is anyone's guess".

I don't see any quotes from the son on his opinion of quality, and if anything I see skepticism towards quality. I don't think anyone can deny, a lot of people are going to try really hard to make full movies entirely from AI. That's as obvious of a statement as "people will try to make cars that drive themselves".

Again I think our problem is the concept of what we are calling "AI". IE I'm only talking of basically AI Generated art/avitars. If done in a consistant way I don't think it even quite qualifies as AI. Really just glorified puppetry. There's no "trustworhtyness", because it doesn't deal in facts. It's job is literally just to take a consistant 3D model, and make it move like the defendent moves. It's old tech used in movies etc... for years, and since it's literally dealing in only appearence any "hacks" etc... would be plainly visible to any observers

Don't worry we have a solution. Immigration gold cards... why would people illegally buy their way into the country, when there's a legal way to buy your way into the country with drug/trafficing money.

The point is the idea, that in general a system could be applied where... say universally the same avitar is applied to everyone while on trial. The fact is "looking trustworthy", is inherently an unfair advantage, that has no real bearing on actual innocence or guilt of which we know these bias's have helped people that better evidence have resulted in innocent people getting convicted, and guilty people walking.

Theoretically a system in the future in which everyone must use an avitar to prevent these bias's would almost certainly lead to more accurate court trials. Of course the one hurdle in my mind that would render it difficult is how to accurately deal with evidence that requires appearence to asses (IE most importantly eye witness descriptions and video footage). When it comes to DNA, Fingerprints, forensics, and hell the lawyers arguements themselves, there's no question in my mind that perception with no factual use, has serious consiquences that harm any attempt to make an appropriately fair system.