Tehdastehdas @ Tehdastehdas @lemmy.world

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Surely squeezing people out of social media giants would bring many more people to Lemmy?

The question is not about banning foreigners from our social media, it's about banning foreign-controlled social media. The Americans can join us here on Lemmy.

But... the foreign black-box feed shaping algorithms are controlled by oligarch capitalists, and they are doing shadow-censorship. Ever thought about why Brexit won?

If you banned the giant social media platforms, people would come to Lemmy, freeing themselves from what you say is bad.

The aim of the ban is not censorship -- it's to free ourselves from the purposely biased feed shaping algorithms mass-manipulating our populace. The content would be allowed, but it would be promoted by human upvotes, not corporate and CIA interests.

China banned many foreign services and made their own substitutes. What crime is being fueled? Bypassing the great firewall using VPNs is insignificant because most people are on the recommended domestic social media. This way China shut out most of enemy manipulation and propaganda, which is why I support the ban in the EU.

Is "not constantly breaking our laws" enough? They are in our pockets, desktops, and server rooms. They know way too much about us, and have the opportunity to spy, manipulate, and sabotage.

Even if we had a way to make sure foreign social media is not doing subtle mass manipulation with their black-box feed shaping algorithms, tailored bias, and shadow-censorship, we can’t make sure closed-source code doesn't have back doors for spying and sabotage. You have to ban it to be safe, which is what China does, mostly.

How could you make sure that closed-source code follows our laws? That it has no back doors for spying and sabotage, and that social media feed shaping algorithms have no bias and shadow-censorship for mass manipulation? You can't, you need to ban it.

How about when one of the people in the pub conversing is an enemy agent in a cold war, always telling lies?

That would be the equivalent of what we do now: we let foreign social media govern who of us converses with whom about what, by shaping our feeds with black-box recommendation algorithms.

It would remove the possibility of feed shaping algorithm bias for mass manipulation, and back doors for spying and sabotage.

Not banning any content, just the giant social media platforms with their purposely biased feeds. The content will reach non-banned social media and have a less biased weighting in feeds here.

How do you regulate closed-source code to be free from back doors for spying and sabotage, and black-box feed shaping algorithms to not have bias and shadow-censorship for mass manipulation?

Don't rely on enemy services in a cold war, no matter how much they seem to follow your regulations.

How do you regulate closed-source code to be free from back doors for spying and sabotage, and black-box feed shaping algorithms to not have bias and censorship for mass manipulation?

Don't rely on enemy services in a cold war, no matter how much they seem to follow your regulations.

Not censoring content, just banning the giant-corp black-box feed shaping algorithms pushing fascist propaganda.

They can join us on non-American social media.

Yes. Current oligarch-owned USA considers Europe an enemy because of its liberal and leftist values. Look how they've already turned us, famously allergic to fascism, towards fascism once again.

We can't rely on enemy services in a cold war. We can't review closed-source code to be free from back doors for spying and sabotage, or black-box feed shaping algorithms to not have bias and shadow-censorship for mass manipulation.

EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage – Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

They are in every European citizen's pockets, desktops, and server rooms. They know way too much about us, and have every opportunity to manipulate us:

• Make the most intelligent people never stumble upon important information on search engines and social media.
• Make the most compatible people never meet each other on dating sites.
• Make the most valuable people never find career-making jobs on work-centered social media.
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Black box recommendation algorithms in the control of one country enables the slow, strategic destruction of Europe by trillions of unnoticeable manipulations. CIA has done this shit before, and now it's being given more power than ever to do so.

China banned that shit, and China has been successful partly for its detachment from US far-right propaganda. They have also made subtle mass-manipulation difficult by making their own services.

We have functional, clunky open-source software that could easily be fitted for any purpose with the money we waste propping up foreign monopolies sabotaging us. Europe has taken a huge risk. I suspect bribery.

They can join us on non-American social media.

The solution would be easy if everyone would do it.

Always true, applies everywhere.

Mandate parcel locker interoperability,

or dO iT liKe FiNlanD dOes:

• In my building, there are lockers from Company 1, who prefers placing them inside. Nice.
• In front of a building 40 meters away, lockers from Company 2, who prefers the outside. Okay, more people have access, but sometimes it rains there. Such a short distance between lockers seems redundant.
• Not all shops I order from use Company 1 that I prefer most of the year, when it's wet and/or cold and/or icy slipping hazard.
• When I order using Company 3, 4, or 5, and I'm not home receiving, neither locker is used and I'll have to fetch the parcel from the nearest branch or locker of Company 3, 4, or 5. This is stupid. I wanted to pay a dime to Company 1 locker for receiving the parcel and holding it for a few hours. That's impossible in this lack of a system.
• Walking outside, I see many lockers in different Company colours not matched to the buildings they obscure.
• You have to install each Company app to receive a parcel. To declutter your phone, you need a folder to hold all the parcel receiving apps. Each locker opens differently, you can't remember exactly how, so you fumble with the various apps and doors year after year.
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Similarly, when ordering a taxi: Which app or phone number for the nearest taxi? Nobody knows.

Similarly, when trying to find a shared-use e-scooter or e-bike: Which app for the nearest wheels? Nobody knows.

Similarly, when ordering food: Which app for the quickest-delivered gluten-free, milk-free, egg-free meal? Nobody knows, and the apps probably don't even have the filters, because who has time for that when you have to develop 15 redundant apps doing the same job poorly.

Free market economy - isn't it great!

My bank's mutual fund let me buy and sell at yesterday's price, so every time the stock market went up, I bought, and when it went down, I sold. I talked to a teller about it, wondering how much money the mutual fund rule designer had pumped out of the bank by then. They quickly changed the rule into a non-insane form: today's price.

I should have just shut up and kept pumping money out of the idiot bank, but I was young and stupid. The bank was in the game, the bank was fair game.