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  • Do you have any substance? and real argument?

    or just vacuous insults is enough for you?

  • Everybody has tons of opinions on what they are mature enough for or not mature enough for

    but as a matter of simple fact, they are adults.

  • You're deflecting because you can't argue anything on the merits.

  • Never before in human history have teenagers been as intensely infantilized as they are in the USA right now.

    Look at pre-literate societies too.

    The idea that we are children until some time in our early twenties is brand new. Nobody ever considered such ridiculous bullshit until about 20 years ago. Now there are huge numbers of Americans thoroughly convinced of this obviously false, vile, bigoted dogma.

  • Except recognizing basic scientific facts :-D

  • Yes it has.

    and internet randos claiming qualifications they obviously don't have is pathetic trollery.

  • What is "general maturity"? What is the scientific tool used to measure it?

    or you just made up some bullshit to justify your bigotry against young adults aged 14-20?

  • re: "human psychological development doesn’t end until about 23-25"

    This is an urban myth. It has been thoroughly debunked.

    re: "our level of intelligence requires a longer incubation time"

    Your example was dogs. They reach adulthood in around 1 year. We take longer, yes, about 14 years.

  • Brains don't "finish cooking"... they change continuously throughout our lives (just like our bodies do)

    and even if there was some magical point of "finish cooking" that wouldn't make people below that age mentally incompetent.

    you are jumping thru tons of illogical hoops in order to justify demeaning and degrading young adults. Stop it.

  • The Tanner Scale measures puberty.

    Puberty is the line between childhood and adulthood.

    It's really that simple.

    If you think there is some other better line, then present your case. Casting dopey aspersions on me just makes you look like a fool.

  • There are clear obvious scientific facts at work here. They are not technicalities.

    How I feel does not make reality real. If I feel like a dog, I am still human.

    Nature makes us adults. The process is called puberty. There are several visible objective secondary sexual characteristics which make pretty damned clear who is where in the process.

  • "finished developing" is a stupid red herring. Our bodies and brains never stop changing. There is literally no point of "finished developing"

    Our brains are largest around age 13. We get adult brains along with our adult bodies during puberty. This is a well-known scientific fact.

    If anyone is "insulated from the real world" that was a choice society made. Was it the intentional infantilization of young adults? Keeping them locked out of adult society means they stay mentally children. We created this problem. We can remove it.

  • The Tanner Scale is the only determinant :-)

  • I wrote "Teenagers Are Adults" and you respond by moving the goalposts to make a strawman. I never wrote "All of the youngest teenagers are always adults" You made that up so you could knock it down.

    The vast majority of teenagers are adults. That's just science. The median age of reaching Tanner 5, adulthood, is 14 now. So most of us are fully adult before our 15th birthdays.

  • That's exactly how all of this works. It is in fact #BasicBiology

    You can do all the #ScienceDenial you like. Won't change the facts.

  • Many 13 year olds are still pubescent. None are children. Nature turns children into adults. There is lots of individual variation.
    What turns a kitten into an adult cat? Puberty. What turns a puppy into an adult dog? Puberty. What turns a child into an adult human? Puberty. This is not difficult.

  • Child beauty contests are completely harmless. Their negative impact is in no way greater than anything competitive sports does to children. People, however, need to do tons of virtue signalling, so they scream about the terrible "sexualization" going on there, when it is in fact just some kids playing dress up, one of the most natural games children play.