Tavarin @ Tavarin @lemmy.ca

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Sure, I don't support the IDF either. I just find your support of Hamas absolutely disgusting.

That is what it means, as stated by the Arab league who expressly invaded Israel on its formation to attempt to eradicate the Jews. That is history, you need to get your facts straight.

It's only in recent years they've tried to rebrand the phrase, because their plan to eradicate the Jews failed.

And the land was not Palestine. It was part of the Ottoman empire, and has been passed from empire to empire throughout history. Everyone there displaced a previous group of peoples.

If you consider Israelis to be colonizers, then so to are the Palestinians. The Jews even have a more historical claim to the land from thousands of years ago than the Palestinians, most of whom showed up only after WW1.

You think their racist ass dog-whistle for eradicating Israel means they are absolutely cool with all the Israeli Jews sticking around?

How stupid are you, eradicate all Israel = eradicate Israeli Jews. From the river to the sea literally means drive the Jews from the river into the sea.

Remember Hamas started this war. Same as the Arabs started the 1948 war, and started the 1967 war.

If Palestine wanted to be free, and not oppressed, maybe they shouldn't have spent the better part of the last 75 years trying to eradicate Israel and the jews.

When Hamas said they will repeat the Oct 7th attacks until all of Israel is eradicated, it was all over Lemmy a week or two ago.

Yes it is you dolt. They want all Jews removed from Israel, and only a Muslim Palestine in it's place, and they are willing to genocide the Jews to achieve that.

You support a genocidal terrorist organization.

Yet nowhere near the effect of two nukes. It's almost as if comparing small arms fire to nukes is completely idiotic.

And Hamas' goal is to eradicate the Jewish people, yet you support them.

So no, your last sentence is not what you have been stating you support.

Imagine supporting a genocidal terrorist organization.

You yourself support an attempted Genocide you moron.

Yes, that's why he was named Token to begin with.

The Hiroshima nuke killed over 100,000 people, Israel has killed 11,000. So nope, they have not bombed Gaza with the power of two Hiroshima nukes.

And because they have an advantage Hamas should be free to attempt to eradicate all the Jews?

You're just A-ok with attempted murder and genocide then are you?

So you support a terrorist organization attempting to eradicate all Jews, and getting their own people willingly killed in the process. Good to know.

Tuesday, why?

And if Hamas would stop firing rockets from populated areas those areas wouldn't be bombed. 9,500 rockets fired at Israel since Oct. 7th, there's a reason Israel is attacking back.

Hamas has come out and said they use tactics that put civilians in the line of fire intentionally. So no, I cannot support the disgusting terrorist group Hamas.

And it's fucking appalling that you can.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1699881898-idf-releases-footage-of-hamas-firing-rpg-from-gaza-city-hospital

https://www.aol.com/news/israel-clashes-hamas-major-hospital-162417982.html

There was an article on the active page of Lemmy yesterday with confirmation of Hamas fighting from a major hospital.

We know Hamas fighters have been using the hospitals to stage rocket attacks, and fire out of. Whether there is an actual base of operations hidden in them is beyond the point, Hamas uses civilian infrastructure to fire at Israel from. They have said as much, they fight from among civilians to get Israel to kill civilians so Israel looks bad to the world. It's how Hamas operates.

What's there to negotiate, one side won't give up hostages without a ceasefire that will greatly strengthen them.

Then why do you seem to support Hamas? Hamas is a cancer to Palestine.

Get rid of Hamas and Nethenyu, then maybe the sides can actually go about negotiating peace.

But here on Lemmy so many of you just scream only Israel bad, Hamas are "good freedom fighters" despite Hamas literally stating they want Israel to kill Palestinians. It's fucking exhausting the shit you people spout.

Just anti terrorist.

And Hamas demanded a 4 day caesefire as part of the hostage swaps, and only offered a small number of hostages.

And I have Israeli friends who had to live under Hamas rocket fire.

they have killed many many many more people then Hamas ever could

Not for lack of trying. If it weren't for the billions of dollars spent on the Iron Dome every year, and the Israeli intelligence apparatus allowing them to evacuate their cities before attacks, many more Israelis would be dead. Attempted murder by Hamas is still atrocious.

most Palestinians didn't even want Hamas

Hamas still had broad support as of 2020, so no most Palestinians do want Hamas.

stops bombing refugee camps and hospitals

Tell Hamas to stop using them as bases of operation and firing rockets at Israel from those locations then. Hamas wants dead Palestinian civilians, that's their goal in the war to make Israel look bad.