Tartas1995 @ Tartas1995 @discuss.tchncs.de

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Honestly I kinda like man pages. It is a pain but it is the least painful. And compared to e.g. the PowerShell docs, I love the man pages.

Eww... Why?

Is the person who is giving you tasks, praising you to their colleagues and recommending you?

What are you on about?

You are quoting me talking about the American financial credit score and then you talk about "even most western countries". Yeah I know. I was talking about one.

Oh interesting! But very different experience, I was called a spy by Chinese people.

Edit: nevermind, he is just being rude.

Hey, you read my comment as you responded to theirs, i will ask you this; did you have the impression that my comment was in any shape a positive spin on china beyond "not all bad"? And do you think "not all bad" is a "positive spin"?

Thanks, I just wanna know if I am wrong because I don't think it was positive at all.

I don't see the "positive" spin in my comment.

I guess if you think that the us is "positive", it would be positive.

Imagine your understanding of the world is so black and white that the idea of similarities makes you unable to think what is actually said.

Edit: wait! Do you think me saying that it is just true that you don't go into debt for an ambulance, is a positive spin? Do you think having actual access to an ambulance is a positive? Sorry but that is part of a basic functional medical system. That is like "they have schools" that ain't a positive, that is the basic.

A corporate credit system that is defacto standard, is nothing short of a nightmare and an insult to a nation. Any credit system.

A financial credit system, if controlled by the gov, could be good if done right; if done wrong, ... It would be interesting to see how fucked up it would get how quickly. As I don't know how to do it right, I am opposed. While I recognize the value of risk management that the system would try to be.

Based on my understanding of American credit system, that system is just fucked. It doesn't make sense. It is not working.

A social credit system is just too vague. Any single score is too vague to express most things but "social credit" what is that? The financial credit score is at least trying to express an idea that we can understand, "how capable am I to pay back loans?". But what does "social credit" mean? What is "social"? This vagueness makes it extremely potent to punish arbitrarily. Why is the Journalist banned from flying? Bad credit? For what? He paid his taxes late? He lost a law suit for defamations? Trespassing? Harassing a politician? Not sorting the trash correctly? It is practically impossible to prove good social behavior or bad social behavior. Or intentional abuse of the system. A financial credit score could make sense and could be evidenced (the current system is just really bad)

In short, I think the social credit has more dangerous than even the worst financial credit systems. Just think about this, if you can't take the train to a different Chinese city, Source, then why would a bank trust you with a loan? Why would an employer hire you? Wouldn't it keep you poor?

Just to be clear, I am speaking hypothetically while referring to real life to highlight my point. I am not saying, china use social credit systems to keep people poor. I am saying, I think social credit systems are far worse because it keeps you poor and so much more while being much more vague.

Also, in ,at least some, countries in Europe there is a credit system for driving, if you speed, you lose/gain points and if you lost all or gained too many, you loose your license. That is an example for a good and clear credit system and even that has some issues. Mainly, if I am driving 6km/h too fast, I might lose a point, and if someone drives 60km/h too fast, they might only lose 8 point. But is 8 times driving 6km/h as bad as 1 time 60km/h? Have fun, fighting over that...

In another comment, I have stated that myself.

I am saying that the social credit system was attempted and they had people banned for e.g. flying. Which makes it reasonable to assume that a really bad social credit score would ban you from flying as well. As the social credit system was experimental, and apparently failed, it is impossible to say what it could have been.

When international news talked about the social credit system and it being in pilot cities, they asked themselves what could be and communicate it as such. But people meme'd it and people believed the meme nonsense version.