Tartas1995 @ Tartas1995 @discuss.tchncs.de

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You should read the whole thing, because then you would have known that he isn't talking about making teaching using ai but using ai in hiring, Performance reviews and not using contractors when ai can do it. So not the fundamental change In Teaching but automated hr work and vibe coding.

As a programmer, 100% right.

But Ai shit can ruin the economical validity of certain jobs but it will make the quality of work much much much worse. E.g. ai generated Easter bunny bags will ruin the Easter bunny bag industry for artists and we will get worse Easter bunny bags :( ofc, there will be work for artists but a lot less because people don't appreciate artistic skills enough. :/

I didn't expect an answer. I am sorry if I made you feel that way. I just wanted to explore the topic with the general topic.

Your answer is a good as mine. I just don't think people have good reason to be so judgemental to any group as vague as "woman".

It is an odd thing anyway.

Fair point

I understand all of that but it seems crazy that it would generate these results so systematically.

Idk. I certainly want a world where gender is a fun little thing and not an life defining element.

Honestly, no. I am working in programming. There are no women. We both know why and the answer is sexism.

But even on the way into the job, I have only twice experience someone telling a woman to not do IT that was when I was a student. 1. A classmate, and everyone gave him a lot of shit for it. Seriously, I don't think he had a friend in the class afterwards. 2. A father telling his daughter. And there I jumped in and challenged him on it.

It is difficult to spot sexism in a different department.

Edit: I misread the question. in my friend circle, I can't recall any woman complain about sexism at their work, but a former female friend in china. The women in my life had issue with their work but I don't recall specifically sexism. Tbf, a lot of them work in jobs that are "women jobs" like caretaker.

2.nd edit: I just recalled 1 case where someone complained about sexism to "me", friend of a friend and I was present. But honestly in that case, it was really bs. Girl admitted that she didn't know what she was doing and admitted that she didn't want to learn and then complain why everyone else got real work in the internship... So not the ideal case to talk about the very real sexism in society.

If you don't mind what do you mean that you understand now how people can believe sexism isn't an issue?

I want to stress that it is an issue, I just have a difficult time believing some of the shit because it seems so comical to me. What kind of person is that way?

Assuming that it is cultural, as it seems like your comment kinda assumes that. Like it seems you are saying, it was cultural but by now it is kinda intentional.

I would argue "willingly ignorant" is bad but also not making it less "unconscious cultural".

If they were willingly ignorant but also no cultural sexist, they wouldn't be an issue.

So well you have a point, but I would say that the unconscious cultural sexism could lead to willfully ignorant and you would kinda expect it.

I am not saying, you are fully wrong about the willingly ignorant part, I just don't think it would remove the cultural part.

Edit: ups edited the wrong comment. Sorry

I think it is a weird focus because it was irrelevant to your point, and the discussion at large. I could point out that American christians are far more likely to support trump than non-christians, but why? When we talk about the idea of the us electorate (that you chose to equate to american in your comment to the other guy. So I will say American too)

The collective in question was defined, "why do you think that about Americans?" To move the focus to white Americans is odd in that context. Imagine I would have said, "well republicans are far right". You would have told me that we don't talk about republicans but Americans. That I couldn't and shouldn't judge a collective by a subgroup. Yet that is what your focus on white Americans does in this conversation. It is not a bad observation, it is just a weird focus in this conversation.

And yes white Americans have voted trump in power, 61% of Americans identify as "white (not mixed)". 71% of Americans identify as "white". That is a huge part of the us electorate. If 57% (according to exit polls) of 71% of the us electorate vote for a fascist, of course, that is relevant and it should play a part in how I judge the us electorate.

But in the end of the day, all of that is more complicated than needed to answer the question, why do I believe the us electorate is far right. Trump won the popularity vote. You can break it up. But then we aren't talking about your initial question, why do you think that about the us electorate? Instead we would talk about e.g. the white us electorate, certainly worth while exploring but not the topic at hand.

If you are unhappy with that, then don't frame it as you do. I am answering your question precisely. Ask me a different question if you want to talk about a different topic. But don't dismiss my answer because you don't like it and claim that your comment didn't focus onto white Americans and that the majority of the us electorate didn't vote for trump while blaming white Americans (the absolute majority of the us electorate) for voting for trump.

I am sorry but the us is mostly white and fascist. That is what informs my opinion on us citizens as a collective.

Edit: you also seem very offended by the idea that I judge the us electorate based on a popular vote, saying that not everyone is that way. While happily blaming white Americans based on exit polls, ignoring that not everyone is that way. That is odd. Why can't I judge the us electorate but you can judge the white us electorate?

I hear you but what cranked it up to 1000?

Like I always saw my mom as a extremely competent person, as a child she was flawless. Nowadays, I see her flaws but I am flawed, so if my father and any person I ever met. I am impressed by my sister and how I can be like the person that she is in many ways.

I am talking about my direct family because these women had a lot of influence on me. So I wonder, what was their experience like to think so poorly of women? Not blaming the women in their social circle for being "bad", I just wonder wtf happened. Where does that belief come from? I don't think they all had great experiences with their male role models but horrible ones with their female role models. So what is it?

Wow, that pay cheque...

I agree with you there. As someone in programming, I don't quite have the opportunity to fight these things when they happen because... There are no women. (obviously linked to this) but I can't call out behavior when it happens when I am not around. But I am happy to report that I have been vocal about my support of trans people and fought against transphobia, even at work. Obviously I am not happy it is needed.

So I am trying to see and support victims of discrimination.

As a man, it is insane to me that this is real.

I have a difficult time imagining malicious intent towards women by all these people. But given how common these stories are, there is something true about it. I just don't understand why.

Is it really an unconscious cultural thing? Or am I naive about how my fellow men (I guess maybe women too) feel towards women?

Something in me refuses to believe that these people knowingly and intentionally harm women. But it sure as hell looks intentional.

I am not defending them. I am expressing my struggle with the reality of this shit.

If you need to pay for something, it is a huge red flag.

Weird focus on white people if it adds nothing to your point.

Not voting is certainly not an indication that they didn't want trump and when dealing with a far right fascist, that is interesting. But we all can have some copium, so that we don't need to accept that a shocking amount of people are dumb as rocks and that consequently they don't quite care about stuff like due process, and don't mind a fascist Leader.

At some point, we need to accept that currently the general public is conservative because they know the old ways and care too little to learn the new ones but get scared of change.

The majority voted for trump, a fascist. Idk.

If you tell me you are a good person, I will require evidence. If you tell me you are a bad person, I will trust your word.

I liked harry Potter. I just can't enjoy it because of her. Her being who she is, ruins it for me.

Why would the artist or the poster be trans? If they were trans, why would it form your opinion on "trans people" and not the individual in question?

I think you are mistaken in something. You assume that his sister would let him. He 100% wants to fuck her, but he probably isn't.

I really like that sign off.

Piss on carpet