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I'm conflicted on this. I 100% think CLI applications should remain as packages but Flatpak IMO is superior for GUI. It just has a lot of "step in the right direction" sorts of things that address some of Linux's faults.

The big two positives for me are:

1. Makes it easier for developers to publish their own software and reach many distros at once. This has really helped with software availability and updates.
2. Sandboxing (although not perfect and Flatseal is kind of essential here, I hope this gets rolled into software centers or something).

I am on Fedora Silverblue and the concept of a base OS + Flatpaks just feels right for workstations. OCI containers (podman/docker/distrobox) as a bonus for development environments without borking your host.

But with this recent Fedora news (I know nothing has changed YET but I am just sussed out tbh), I am considering switching to OpenSUSE Aeon/Kalpa.

Ahhh I see. Might be an issue with the Nvidia drivers and Wayland.

I would try the following in order and see if any of them fixes it:

1. Update your system "rpm-ostree update" and reboot
2. Make sure you are on a Wayland session. This also provides instructions to see what apps are in X11 mode (which I suspect Firefox and Software Center are in your case).

• 2.1 If you are already on Wayland (its the default in Fedora 37): Install Flatseal and force Wayland for Firefox (toggle off X11 and 'Fallback to X11')
• 2.2 If you are on X11, logout and switch to Wayland in the login screen and follow 2.1 to force Firefox to Wayland.

3. If that doesn't work I would follow these specific steps to install Nvidia on silverblue. RPM Fusion also has some specific guides for Silverblue that you should check to see if you missed a step.
4. I would also consider upgrading to Fedora 38, and bump up your RPM fusion major version to track Fedora 38.

I bought a .com for like $10 CAD from Cloudflare that uses a URL not linked to me.

Maybe overly paranoid, but it also makes it easy to get SSL certificates for my lab.

You are most definitely correct 🙃

Bad bot, that’s not a Lemmy link just happens to contain “/c/“

Can you run an rpm-ostree status and paste the results here?

Might also be good to post in ask fedora if you haven’t already.

The people who maintain silverblue are often there to help out.

Yeah and I have thousands of hours in League of Legends, but have probably enjoyed only about 10 minutes

Higher property taxes for multi-home or corporate owners, higher corporate taxes, break up the oligopolies, etc.

I feel like a broken telephone. But if we say it enough maybe it will actually happen.

Yeah same in my apartment. Bins are filled with incorrect items, and clearly dirty. I bring all my organized and clean recycling but know deep down its just going to a landfill or be burned.

On top of that, the bin categories are weird and it's really confusing. IE there is a bin that says "Bottles and Cans", and another that says "Paper and Cardboard". What about other plastics?

People will do whatever is easiest, even if they are decent people. We need better policies and systems to force incentivize people to follow the rules.

Edit: typos

Yeah honestly can they open up more "Beer Store"-style recycling drop offs? That way they could not process the useless/dirty stuff and keep the good stuff?

Maybe give out like 1 cent per X grams of plastic to incentivize people?

That or we can go full Taiwan and basically force people/companies to do things properly.

In a way, but chroot only isolates file systems (process only has access to an isolated "root" which isn't the actual host's root). Rootless Podman/Docker goes a few steps beyond and utilizes cgroups, and user namespaces to isolate not only file systems, but also processes and networking.

Here is a high level overview.

And another one from Dan Walsh.

From a user perspective, Distrobox is a tool that lets you "spin up any distro inside your terminal".

You can basically create a mini Linux environment of any distro that you can access through the terminal. You can set it to share your home folder, our create a new home folder just for that mini environment.

Behind the scenes Distrobox is creating and managing containers through Podman or Docker. You could technically achieve the same thing by manually setting up Podman containers, Distrobox just makes it very easy to create and maintain those containers with the correct permissions. It also has useful tools where you could install an app in a Distrobox container, but then add that app to your host OS app list.

This makes it especially useful for immutable OSs. Instead of adding packages to your base OS, which should be kept as minimal as possible, you can just install them in a Distrobox, so your host's root filesystem is unaffected.

Silverblue + ZFS would be a match made in heaven, unfortunately Fedora makes it really hard to do ZFS reliably, too many kernel updates that break ZFS. This would be an even bigger nightmare on Silverblue given the distribution model.

If only ZFS was part of the Linux kernel 😑. maybe one day

Disagree, no matter the level of detail, having "yes" automatically selected is an assumption. What purpose would it have other than hoping people will just select the defaults and ignore it?

Having it as a default guarantees it doesn’t scare non-power users away from it. It’s not about just having people clicking next and accepting it without consent.

Scare away from what? Data collection? I mean even in that wording you are saying there is something to be scared of. It should be up the user. If you are saying "non-power users won't fully understand what is being collected and might get scared away if it isn't the default option" then that is even worse TBH. Preying on people not fully understanding what's going on.

Having the default box being "on" is only for the purpose of hoping people click through without realizing.

There is literally no other argument here. "Consent" is: "Hey do you want this, yes or no?". Not "We are assuming yes unless you explicitly tell us otherwise".

Reading through the post it looks like the project leads (Fedora council members) are arguing in favour of "opt-out" and the larger community is arguing in favour or either opt-in or a middle ground where the user has to select an option with no default.

Honestly it seems like the Fedora team is arguing that there are only two options: opt-out, or nothing at all. This isn't true and people are commenting with more reasonable alternatives.

I know its not in development yet, but if the Fedora council members are saying "opt-out or nothing", not a good look TBH given this initial community response.

I daily drive Fedora Silverblue on my laptop and distrobox has been great.

I have layered only two packages: USB Guard and Distrobox. I run syncthing in a rootless podman container, and the rest goes through Distrobox.

I was even able to setup ProtonVPN in distrobox and it functions as if it was directly installed on the host (just need to map your home folder and some permissions).

I hope that immutable becomes either the standard or at least all major distros start offering it as an alternative. Makes everything foolproof and makes me much more willing to try new packages and tools because I can always just roll back.

The only thing that would really make it perfect is if files in /etc/ where also handled in a similar manner. IE: Can make changes to configuration files, and easily roll back to defaults at any time.

I don’t think it will have any impact tbh

Historically the flow of code has pretty much been:

1. Fedora
2. CentOS stream (as of a couple years ago)
3. RHEL
4. CentOS Rocky Linux / Alma Linux

I think there’s been discussion on what will happen with Rocky/Alma, but nothing should change with Fedora.

I also recommend Fedora if OP wants a similar “just works” experience as Ubuntu.

Been using it for a while now on my desktops/laptops with no issues.

Yeah that’s true.

I guess I was coming at it more from a “why doesn’t Ubuntu/fedora/debian promote or endorse something like the AUR in their official docs”

But yeah no distro really has an AUR, and it’s kind of a chicken and egg problem now because the barrier to entry for the AUR is much lower than anything else