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There I agree. He is just the wrong person to be putting himself forward for a moral argument.

Just another reminder that Murdoch told Johnson to get rid of the BBC. Since then Tories have been gunning for it with fervour. The fact that Grade has such close links with the Tory party and its bidding just puts this into context. The way Ofcom has been ran during the Tory reign is very indicative that he is willing to follow the party line.

The BBC currently is a steaming pile of poop. The Tories have ruined it. But as an institution it holds massive soft power for the UK. It doesn't need scrapping, it needs reform on who controls it. Having a government control the narrative of the media is an abuse of power. It needs an independent body to control how the BBC is set up. That would only ever come from a cross party group set up after each GE.

So, in WW2, the vast vast vast majority of the fight against “evil” was done by the USSR, because the Third Reich had, as one of its pillars, the destruction of the workers’ movement and the enslavement of the Slavs. The USSR lost far more than any other party to the war because the Third Reich made the war of choice, dehumanized the Slavs, and engaged in genocidal mass murder as a choice. The USSR defeated 80% of the Third Reich’s forces.

Ignores the fact Stalin sided with Hitler and invaded Poland. The Allies also had a substantial supply train back and forth between the UK and Russia to help fight the Germany army there.

On the flip side, the American and British government and business communities were pro-fascist. They funded the rise of the Third Reich, they funded domestic and international eugenics programs, they were deeply invested in apartheid states and women’s oppression. (By way of contrast, the Brits and Americans used women as prostitutes to support the war effort while the USSR had women all over their military as snipers, tank operators, pilots, machine gunners, etc.)

Governments were shits back then across the world. As for the Eugenics, that was how the world worked. You are using the current standards to demonise the past. We know the past was broken, that is why we have change. Eugenics is still a thing today. There will always be those who think they are better than everyone else. As for using women for prostitutes, just read on how the Russians treated the German women. Or more so what is happening in Ukraine right now.

Countries have been funding partisan groups and wars for time immemorial. The enemy of your enemy is my enemy etc. The west is funding Ukraine right now. Ukraine is funding partisan groups in Russia. Russia in turn has mercenaries from all over the world. The Wagner group is active in many areas.

But then what of Japan. Before the USA nuked Japan, the USA and Japan were negotiating terms of surrender.

No they were not. The emperor of Japan refused to surrender, the Allied forces did not see the need to offer good terms. There is a famous scene in the movie Oppenheimer, where Roosevelt gets the news of the successful test of the nuclear bomb at the Potsdam summit. Good terms are at the behest of the position you are in. Japan was not in a good place.

The USA made an active deliberate choice to nuke civilians unnecessarily.

Damned if they did and damned if they didn't. The counter argument is that it has prevented the use of Nukes since then. Or rather anyone who commits to using one know exactly what they are doing. What is a certainty is that fewer died as a result of the bomb. Not the most palatable end justifies the means, I agree.

Why? Because communism was their real enemy. It was the reason they got involved in the war, it was the driving force behind their strategic decisions. They got involved against communism, they went to Germany against communism, they partitioned Germany against communism. And they nuked Japan as a show of force, or to demonstrate how bat shit they were, to create conditions of fear and restraint.

Japan was nuked in the fight against communism>? Stalin was making imperial demands. The land grab by the Russians was the beginnings of soured relations. Remember Russia was directly responsible for the UK and France entering the war when it invaded Poland.

As for the rest, no one could argue that governments have only just moved away from being shits. It is a recent thing, and not all governments are complying with the change in attitude. Judging the actions of the past by the standards of today is just a "better than thou ism". It is easy to be pompous and pious in the current environment. Not so much when the whole world is working to different values. I am 100% certain that they will be shits again should the need arise. Looking in the direction of Israel on that one.

We need the whole world to agree to not invade each other. We do not need to justify the actions of today by the misdemeanours of those in the past.

Pretty pathetic pedantism. You need more things to entertain yourself with my friend.

I never said I used it or made any assumptions. This is how some see its inference, which answers the posters question.

It sounds like Germany is going to be asking who they are paying taxes to.

Haven't bought anything that is obviously from Israel for along time now. Call me an antisemite, I'll stick to thinking I'm anti-apartheid.

Great if it gets implemented. Once there is a tax record then we will have a better idea of where the money is going.

Not a single mention of Braverman who has been fuelling all this crap. Yes, there would be still be groups promoting this without her, but she has done her best to inflate the hate between them in the UK.

There is an increase in antisemitism and islamophobia across many countries ATM. It is the ignorant response of people believing all jews are Israeli and all Muslims support Hamas. This is what happens when a small section of a religion becomes extremist. Israel knew this would be the reaction to what they are doing, as did Hamas when they instigated such a barbaric attack. Countries that have a Muslim bias will gun for retribution against Jews and vice versa.

We have two religions that are intent on murdering each other. Worse is that there are countries on the outside supporting this fiasco on both sides.

“An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind.” - Mahatma Gandhi

So much for "never again".

In the US, Gen Z still only has 10% who are active voters. Recent elections have seen a 4% surge. Not really a great deal on such a small baseline. There is more to do with convincing the young that it is in their interests to vote at each election. This post being one of the main reasons why.

The model is only working for the few. The last 15 years has seen a tipping point where people are struggling as bad as the poor in the Victorian era. the worst of it is that they do not even feel guilty about it. Some want to double down even more.

Lord Sugar is self made, albeit an arsehole who pushes conservative agenda. The one thing all billionaires have in common is that they have abused the workforce to make money.

Just like kids now, kids then did not vote. You are a prime example of why they should be teaching critical thinking in schools. When someone is pushing an agenda, you always have to ask why.

No one in their right mind would argue that millennials are struggling. The way the average wage across the world has been driven down is abhorrent. Now show me how this is the fault of boomers.

This is what I wrote in another post:

Everything regarding boomers and wealth accumulation is nothing more than culture wars and a race to the bottom. The real enemy are those that have manipulated politics to allow them to abuse labour laws and taxes. We should not be looking at why some have did well in life, we should be looking at why some are not. It should not be a race to the bottom, it should be about getting more for for those who deserve it.

No one pushing these culture wars like to highlight just how tax systems have changed in the last 80 years.

In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.

The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 slashed the highest rate from 70 to 50 percent, and indexed the brackets for inflation.

During the 1990s, the top rate jumped to 39.6 percent.

All the while governments across the world have added loopholes to facilitate tax evasion on a massive scale.

Median earnings have gone up 2% in real terms since 1980. But the disparity between those who have and have not has changed in favour of the richest. The poorest are now much worse off than they have been since the 80s, and the richer are vastly richer.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/185369/median-hourly-earnings-of-wage-and-salary-workers/

Your problem is not with a Pseudo-generation, it is with the way the system runs. Everything is stacked against those without money.

Precisely this. Everything regarding boomers and wealth accumulation is nothing more than culture wars and a race to the bottom. The real enemy are those that have manipulated politics to allow them to abuse labour laws and taxes. We should not be looking at why some have did well in life, we should be looking at why some are not. It should not be a race to the bottom, it should be about getting more for for those who deserve it.

No one pushing these culture wars like to highlight just how tax systems have changed in the last 80 years.

In 1944, the top rate peaked at 94 percent on taxable income over $200,000 ($2.5 million in today’s dollars3). That’s a high tax rate.

The Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 slashed the highest rate from 70 to 50 percent, and indexed the brackets for inflation.

During the 1990s, the top rate jumped to 39.6 percent.

All the while governments across the world have added loopholes to facilitate tax evasion on a massive scale.

Median earnings have gone up 2% in real terms since 1980. But the disparity between those who have and have not has changed in favour of the richest. The poorest are now much worse off than they have been since the 80s, and the richer are vastly richer.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/185369/median-hourly-earnings-of-wage-and-salary-workers/

I have plenty in the past and know that what is said total BS.

Some me some stats on that. Some random pushing a culture war on the internet doesn't cut it for me.

There is a lot of truth in this tbf. Oil and gas is not the problem, the problem is those that are making billions from the burning of it. If you take all the money out of the equation, I doubt anyone would have an argument to push anymore.