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Lime Buzz (fae/she) @ SweetCitrusBuzz @beehaw.org
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  • This is why 'doms' need to go through training what it's like to be a 'sub' ioo and possibly vice verse, to notice and deal with the potential pitfalls.

  • Yeah, I have heard it brought up as a good example but wasn't sure. I'll check it out.

    Not sure what you mean about trying to lump them all together.

  • Yeah, exactly. The mainstream seems to be only to be able to depict abuse being kink.

    The latest one is Babygirl (film) I've not seen it but based on the trailer it sure looked that way. I hope it isn't but I don't have high hopes of a mainstream film or other media ever depicting actually good consent and kinks beyond the ones most associated with the mainstream understanding of kink.

  • As for the abuse, this is exactly why you should stay away from people who:

    • 'Figured it out' for themselves without any education from actual kink educators.
    • Do not believe that the core of kink is respecting consent, boundaries and autonomy and that consent is revocable at any time.
    • Do not practise good RACK: Risk Aware Consensual Kink.

    Such people should be kept away from kink at all costs.

  • I thought that too after only having seen the title. However, reading the article they make a good point that there should be public toilets that aren't run by corporations, that the government, state etc should provide them.

    I think this is a good point.

  • Thank you! Today we received some good advice from someone who's job it is to help and we are going to follow it. Hopefully this will improve things.

  • Lol, fuck the BBC, bunch of transphobic asses who every many think are 'unbiased' but have showed that they're not or that 'unbiased' is not the way to be if they are as it causes harm.

    I hope they die off.

  • Thanks, nobody has really taken me seriously or seemed like it's a major worry when they have so I am having to wait 6 weeks before I can be looked at currently.

  • Sure! Glad to have explained and hopefully helped. I thought I had better after people called me out for something I didn't exactly mean and possibly things I did but was incorrect about.

    Yeah! Nice to run into you too around here! How's it treating you? If you'd like to say, that is.

  • Thanks for explaining what I was getting at better than I am able to currently, genuinely.

  • Man pages are not good for beginners. Help pages, I am not sure if they exist within the OS for such things I mentioned such as the terminal or not.

    I was being specific so as to avoid it blowing up into multiple things, but yes there being no tutorials built in is common to many FOSS things I have come across.

    I disagree wholeheartedly with your assertion that people should not be handheld through the learning process or that it's entitlement to expect or even want it, if we want people to learn and get better at things then such things are useful and needed but they have to start somewhere and having a machine 'hold their hand' is better than them getting frustrated imo.

    So what if no other OS does it to the degree I think it should? FOSS could prove itself to be better by doing what other OSs don't, but you seem to be suggesting it shouldn't and that is something I genuinely don't understand. If we want people to use it as I often see FOSS obsessives tell people yet do absolutely nothing to support them in doing so, just call their closed source software shit, tell them to move to open source and then are like "lol, byeeeee" if they do and then have no idea how to use it, especially if they do so just to not be berated by them again.

    I disagree that people earnestly looking for help should be called 'entitled noobs' and even if they are, so what?

    I'd rather help them so they can move on to learning on their own. This is exactly the attitude and viewpoint I was addressing, foss people cannot see how it benefits us all to help even those that just want a 'quick fix' to their problems as it is more than possible in a few years time those people might be even more helpful as they remember how they were treated in the face of their confusion about it.

    I don't agree only that those people put in the effort themselves should be helped, even if it's indirectly, writing a beginner level tutorial and then linking it is more useful and nets more use to foss than just saying "no figure it out yourself" in the long term and I genuinely do not understand why people think that 'handouts' are bad if they get a good result in the future or at least get the person to stop asking.

    I've actually written many tutorials for things and plan on writing more in the future, I've helped many people with software both closed and open source, so yeah, I have some experience there and completely understand people's frustration with the general foss community when they cannot get help. I've been that person many times too and so decided to do something about it, I genuinely hope others do too so that we can all grow together whether people start from 'entitled' roots or not.

  • Yes, but many foss is just created with those already in the know about what it does in mind.

    FOSS has historically and continues to be unhelpful to many people coming into it. There's often no beginner level tutorials built in, no easily accessible communities that do not have at least one smug asshole that is utterly unhelpful saying things like "just fork it" or "it's not for you".

    So if FOSS ever wants to actually position itself as helpful for the common person it needs a lot more people prepared to write these tutorials etc and build them into the software itself, not just assume internet access or that such things can be found online.

    The biggest one is the terminal. As far as I'm aware it does not come with a tutorial built in ever on any distro. It does not on first opening it say "hey, here are the things you can do" because the developers do not consider that people might be entirely unfamiliar with such things and/or nobody wishes to write one or include it even if it is written.

    So yes, foss is good for freedom but at the expense of having support built in to get people started, unlike many closed sourced software things. I don't therefore see how it is useful to people that have no clue how to get started with it, thus often sending them back to the very things FOSS says they should escape.