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If US hegemony ended today, it would mean immediate war [...] The US is far and away the most powerful military in the world, and without the threat of the US military intervening on behalf of its allies, those conflicts are nowhere near as one-sided as they are today. [...]

See, the problem here is that all the potential apocalyptic conflicts between american allies and other nations are contingent on the existence of american foreign meddling in the first place. The global conditions of multipolarity between now and WW1 are different. The reason for animosity between america's allies and their neighbors is that the neocolonial western powers, headed by america, are using these allies as pawns, puppets to further their own interests within these regions against its enemies. It would instead be more accurate to say that if america's enemies were weaker militarily and economically, america would be able to swoop in and destroy their people via a combination of hard and soft power using its allies as forward operating bases. I am not saying that the enemies of america are perfect nations, however, in the absence of american meddling, they have been shown to pursue more peaceful and mutually beneficial international relations with neutral nations, as opposed to outright warfare and economic genocide, as america does.

As such, if there is no america, then there would be no threat of slaughter for its enemies through its allies, and therefore there would be no more reason for the sort of animosity that could spiral into a nuclear war. The enemies of america, due to their position, are generally intelligent geopolitically, and do not possess the historical legacy of being colonial empires. If america truly fell, then they won't start wars against a now nonexistent enemy for no good reason.

Whatever you want to say about the crimes against humanity committed in the maintenance of US hegemony, I will agree with you, but that doesn't mean for a second that the alternative is better.

This is a common argument for a neoliberal status quo: "Well sure we know global regime X is shit and kills millions of people per year, but hey, all these strawman alternatives are bad so in the end, There Is No Alternative." It's been overused by conservative politicians to the point that its a slogan: TINA. However, we must realize that there are multiple alternatives, including the building of a better world.

Be careful what you wish for and all that.

Its going to collapse anyways over the next century or so, we do not need to wish for anything.

Until Russia and China start doing literally the same things if not worse.

Probably not, China is on record, better than the United States in that it does not destabilize burgeoning socialist governments nor engage in one-sided business deals with third world nations to cripple them with debt like how the west does in Africa. Furthermore, they have no historical precedent of engaging in genocidal colonialist ventures in countries halfway around the world from them. If China were top dog they would just be free to expand mutually beneficial international relations at a greater rate then they are doing now without fear of america and its allies nuking them for stepping out of line.

Russia, on the other hand, is truly a failed state that is also in decline. They have a dogshit military that can't even take a small pissant nation headed by a film star right on its border. It is very unlikely that Russia, in its current form, will be able to reach the same level of economic and military domination that america currently possesses.

Fundamentally, one of the other reasons why China and Russia are unlikely to do the same things is because they are not settler-colonial nations born from genocide. The ideology of Manifest Destiny, invading a militarily inferior nation, slaughtering every single one of the people there, plundering its resources, and settling the land for the sake of "Personal Freedom" (the American Dream), is a unique historical pattern that the very idea of america as a nation is contingent on.

I agree, some of you are alright, it is the elite of america and the very notion of "america" as a nation itself which must ultimately face justice for this situation. I hope you have a good day.

America falling apart would be horrifyingly destructive for the rest of the world, for it will allow other corrupt capitalist powers that are, let's be honest, not as humane, take over the rest of the world.

Well technically the continuation of america is more destructive than its inevitable decline, since america has a very awful pattern of killing millions of people for the enrichment of its elite, via means such as invasions, installing genocidal puppet leaders, and corporate extraction. The worst part is that america often destroys countries just as their people are on the brink of greater liberation.

Notable examples include:

Installing the Taliban in Afghanistan to oppose a Socialist government then destroying it

Destroying Iraq for Oil

Helping quash the Protocommunist Taiping Rebellion in China

The current blockade of Cuba

The current blockade of North Korea

The murder of socialist president Salvador Allende in Chile and the installation of Pinochet, a neoliberal dictator

The Contras

Sending $3 billion a year to isntreal for the mass killing of Palestinians

The genocide of first nations peoples on the North American continent itself

Assassinating Fred Hampton and the political killings of the Black Panther Party

Meddling in the affairs of practically every single third world country on Earth

Fucking Monsanto and their land grabbing bullshit

It is also probably the most inhumane of the corrupt capitalist powers as revealed in the details of these genocidal ventures either by using its own weapons or by proxy.

As such, the death of america would enable the possibility of a flourishing of socialist nations without the threat of the worlds most powerful military brought to full bear against their people for daring to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.

people deserve to starve in an age of plenty

this pigbrained subhuman cruelty betrays you as an american citizen, thank god your shithole is in decline lol you should all rot and die there for the good of the world

My guess is that, destroying the US would go a long way for world peace.

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