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That 0.639% of the population actually has a lot of them in a critical swing state that helped Biden win 2020. Harris lost Michigan by less than 85K votes, they could have made the difference.

Not "if the government says it's false" if it is false. Why are you accepting being lied to?

You're conflating information with misinformation. The quotes say misinformation, not information.

Don't cherrypick quotes. What does the next 2 paragraph say?

You're sources don't support the censorship of information. Just calling out supposed "vaccine hesitancy" and saying to stop it due to its impact on the public health. And yes temporary measure to wear masks and isolate is perfectly acceptable given the circumstances.

I would suggest you actually lookup examples of fascism and compare it to what yoy see today. Try send connect the dots.

I'm not happy about this outcome either, it's an incredibly shitty day for any progressive in any country. But the end result is simple. Less people felt compelled to vote for Harris here than they did for Biden in 2020. It's not about a "everything or nothing" mentality, it's about delivering a message that makes people want to go out of their way to vote for her. She alienated a lot of people by doing stupid shit like campaigning with people like Liz Cheney, saying she'll have Republicans in her cabinet, supporting Israel, being tougher on border policies, supporting fracking, etc. They banked on having more Republicans vote for them than progressives being disenfranchised. Harris isn't much of a progressive, especially on the world stage. She just looked to be a progressive when comparing her to Trump.

There's no doubt there were other things like misinformation campaigns and such. But they knew about this for a long time and should have prepped for it better.

No.

Her platform and campaigning wasn't good enough. It's the unfortunate truth and people need to accept it. Trump got less votes than 2020, and he still won. Because Harris didn't inspire enough people to vote. She tried to work with the "progressive" Republicans and get their vote. Like I said above "Better than Trump" is not something that incentivizes people to vote for.

People need to feel incentivized to vote. The reality is Harris went too far in courting the right and ended up alienating a lot of progressives in the process. There were a lot of warning signs, people just didn't want to listen.

Yep, they know Trump will follow the money. And they definitely have money.

It isn't fascism when healthcare systems get overwhelmed, an unprecedented level of people are dying, and every expert was advising for the measures that were implemented (and more in a lot of cases). There were reasons these rules were put in place. And it wasn't for anyone's ego or political points.

Money only gets you so far. The unfortunate truth is Harris didn't run a campaign that incentivized people to vote. "Better than Trump" doesn't bring people to polls.

The difference is Covid was justified.

I'm not disagreeing with your sources. I'm disagreeing with you. You're the one saying these actions are fascist. And I'm telling you it's not. I suggest you do some actual reading on fascism before sitting there saying that implementing public health measure for a once-in-a-century virus outbreak that's killed tens of millions is fascism.

Trump got 2 million less votes than he did in 2020. I think this is more of a case where left-leaning people failed to show up in numbers that led for Biden's win in 2020.

I'm saying your sources are absolute shit because that's not fascism.

Your sources are absolute shit. Try harder.

Like I said, this isn't the correct example for fascism. It's very far off.

That's not fascism or the vilification of a group. It's just common sense and for the greater good. Fascism is what the US is about to have for the next 4 years under Trump. And hopefully it's only 4 years.

Bernie 2.0

Do you mean Biden 2.0?