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  • They’ve discarded any hope of moral rectitude and are simply trying to win the fight in practical terms by whatever means available.

    Children. Are. Dying.

    Standing on principle for decades is good, but you cannot ask people to watch whole families die and do nothing. Israel shooting and killing hundreds of unarmed protestors with no consequences from the rest of the world showed that the Gandhi-style strategy will never work. You ask about effectiveness, Israel showed that they won’t allow nonviolent protest, they lock up moderate politicians and fund extremists, and make any sort of peaceful reconciliation impossible. The large majority of Israelis and Palestinians who want peace are actively blocked by the Netanyahu government. It’s nice to tell people how they should do things from the comfort of your safe home with electricity.

  • Read this New Yorker interview of a Hamas leader. Palestinians tried everything the “right” way. They engaged in nonviolent protest and were shot by the IDF. They went to the UN and Israel called it “diplomatic terrorism” and sanctioned the PA. They offered deep concessions to move forward on a two state solution and Netanyahu refused with no counter offer. They called for new elections and were blocked. There was really no way to left to resist Israel peacefully. The IDF was and is raping Palestinians.

    “We rolled down all of the pathways to get some of our rights—not all of them. We knocked on the door of reconciliation and we weren’t allowed in. We knocked on the door of elections and we were deprived of them. We knocked on the door of a political document for the whole world—we said, ‘We want peace, but give us some of our rights’—but they didn’t let us in.” He added, “We tried every path. We didn’t find one political path to take us out of this morass and free us from occupation.”

  • it's still a war crime to abduct non-combatants

    And yet Israel has kidnapped thousands of Palestinian children and holding them without access to lawyers or contact by their families.

    There needs to be war crimes investigations and charges against both sides, and yet the US is sanctioning the international bodies that adjudicate this.

  • No. The attacks were originally aimed at a military base; they had no idea that a music festival was going on. The death count is roughly 300 soldiers dead and 900 civilians. By Israel’s own logic, this ratio of civilian deaths is acceptable in war. (I disagree which is why it’s wrong for both sides) Hamas claimed they were taking enemy fire from these locations, and by Israeli logic it meant that these Kibbutzim were now legitimate military targets. (Again, Israel has done this to Arab towns using the same rationale). Israel doesn’t like hoisted on their own petard.

  • Fatah engaged in a coup, locking up elected officials. It succeeded in West Bank and failed in Gaa. Why should those remaining officials reconcile with the people who did that coup and openly took aid from Israel to topple that democracy?

    There were attempts to unify and move forward, but this is a thorny issue because they don’t trust one another. Meanwhile, Netanyahu took advantage of the division to steal more land and refuse peace negotiations .

  • Stealing the top comment:

    See what's sad is that there could be real national security reasons for the FBI/DOJ actions, but because the pattern lately has been un-uniformed randos detaining people in the streets (and then disappearing them), I'm fresh out of benefits of the doubt for the government here.

    If they're the subject of a criminal investigation, say so. If they're not, then explain why nobody has heard from these people in seemingly weeks. Are they green card holders? US citizens?

  • The courts might be able to stop future renditions, but the president or Congress have the power to end this or return them. Congress could cut off the funding (bribes) to El Salvador or president could force them to release people.